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GodWave Collective: White House Meeting Planning Session

Date: 2025-05-12

1. Opening Prayer & Spiritual Framing (00:00 - 03:30)

The meeting began with Marcus Noel leading a prayer, setting a spiritual tone for the planning session. The prayer emphasized clarity, presence, unity in purpose, and spiritual discernment for their upcoming White House meeting.

Marcus Noel: "Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for bringing us here together. Thank you for allowing us to be in your presence to meet upon your work and allow all forms of openness and clarity to enter our minds, allow us to shut off elements of our day that does not include this work, allow us to be present with one another... Father, we know upon this invitation that you are preparing us for a test and we need to walk into this test with clarity, understanding and unify in your spirit and your spirit only."

This opening established the team's view of the White House meeting as a spiritual test requiring discernment and unity of purpose.

2. Logistical Planning (03:30 - 08:00)

Ien Chi led a discussion of logistics for the upcoming DC trip, focusing on accommodations. The team discussed:

  • Ron Roberts already had lodging arranged in DC from Wednesday (arrival day) to Saturday
  • Gary mentioned having an Airbnb with Sam (not attending the Paula White meeting)
  • Marcus and Arielle were waiting to hear from Dr. Mitchum about potential discounted hotel rooms
  • Ien needed lodging from Thursday to Saturday

Marcus Noel: "She's at a gala right now. So she's gonna call me back, but she can get like a block of rooms at the hotel where she's staying. So She usually has really deep discounts, like $60 a night type situations, big rooms, stuff like that."

The team also agreed to gather Thursday night for dinner to set intentions, pray, and prepare collectively before the Friday meeting.

3. Spiritual Preparation & Context (08:00 - 12:30)

Marcus shared his perspective on how the team should approach the White House meeting spiritually, emphasizing:

  • He and Arielle would be fasting from Thursday night until Friday night "to be present in the spirit"
  • The need for careful spiritual discernment when meeting with Paula White
  • Context about Paula White being part of the "charismatic movement" and a "prosperity preacher"

Marcus Noel: "This is not like, this is not like a light matter. Being in this frequency, I'm not sure if you guys have done the research around Paula or not, but you know, like she's a high level individual. Some people call her a heretic."

Marcus Noel: "So we have to be very, very careful in discerning. And this is a spiritual test."

Marcus clarified they should not come with specific asks but rather be present to the divine purpose:

Marcus Noel: "...we can't have an ask in this situation it's about being present with the father and why he sent us so we can be prepared... to share what we're already doing... we may see something that throws all of us off where we were just there to be messengers and witnesses of what's to come. But we cannot go in with a concrete ask."

4. Strategic Approach & Positioning (12:30 - 17:45)

Ron Roberts shared his alignment with Marcus's spiritual framing and expanded on strategic positioning:

Ron Roberts: "I think it's good to be reactive... I think if we're talking about outcomes... best case scenario in my mind looks like us being able to be trusted advisors of where to deploy capital, to where to allocate funds and resources, and to sanity check some of the things that she wants to do based off of whatever she already is thinking about for our generation."

Ien sought clarification on the meeting's purpose, and Marcus explained the context of how the meeting came about:

Marcus Noel: "The day when you and I were sitting down at Joe's eating, I had just gotten off the phone and I was talking on the phone with Dr. Mitchum and Paula... when we were sitting down and she called me and I stepped away and all that... That's where I prompted from."

Marcus revealed Paula White was interested in their "Godway Festival" concept after Dr. Mitchum described it as "like a Coachella South by Southwest, right? For God."

He also provided important political context:

Marcus Noel: "Coming off of the alpha school ways, I can tell you from reading Project 25, one of the agendas is to have like christian-led schools... That's why they shut down the Department of Education because what they're going to do is they're about to like reboot all of this stuff."

Marcus Noel: "The secret agenda at play is Christian nationalism... So that does not really have like true faith and true God, but they're going to use God as a narrative to build a nation and to build allegiance."

Marcus framed the meeting as having two possible outcomes: either finding a genuine ally or identifying "the opposition" to better understand their plans.

5. Meeting Structure & Attendees (17:45 - 22:15)

The team discussed the structure of the White House meeting:

  • There will be a larger briefing with approximately 20 faith leaders, primarily from the African-American community
  • The GodWave team may have a private lunch or moment with Paula before or after
  • Dr. Mitchum is organizing the gathering and will be their advocate/"cheerleader"

Marcus Noel: "We don't have to over talk, oversell. We don't have to do any of that. We just have to be truly present and in the spirit, and that's going to be enough."

Marcus Noel: "The whole notion here is all a part of Paula's agenda is getting obviously like black people on board. Most black people do not like Donald Trump... So I think they're trying to approach this through faith..."

Ron observed that the GodWave team would likely be the youngest attendees, giving them a unique position:

Ron Roberts: "I'm very positive that they fill the room with older people that are easier to sway and buy that are going to be emotional. And when you're emotional, you can be persuaded. So I'm very confident that there'll be no other group under 40... In attendance, and if they are, I'll be very shocked to see who those people are."

6. Role Definition & Strategic Positioning (22:15 - 26:30)

The team carefully crafted how they would present themselves and their roles:

  • Marcus established they would identify as "Dial Wave Collective... a young adult ministry"
  • Ron would focus on "Gen Z consumer insights"
  • Gary would represent "AI in schools" (aligned with a recent executive order)
  • Ien would be positioned as "head of viral media"
  • Arielle would focus on "ministry operations"

The team debated the most effective terms for describing their roles to an older audience:

Ron Roberts: "We have to be able to communicate specialization and expertise very quickly... Obviously this isn't something that we would like... there's a thing of like salesmanship..."

Ron Roberts: "If we're presenting as a collective, of course, Guy Wave, the festival is already in her mind, and the collective is here. Head of virality, I've been responsible for billions of views online with the top media company..."

7. Presentation Strategy & Materials (26:30 - 30:00)

The team discussed creating a presentation deck to unify their messaging:

  • Marcus and Ien were working on a 10-slide deck highlighting the GodWave vision
  • Ron suggested using Doxin (rather than PDF) to track engagement analytics
  • They agreed to have the deck ready before Friday's meeting

Ron Roberts: "On the back end of Doxin... it gets the IP address... and tells you who the email is assigned to. And as many times as they open it, as much time as they spend on each slide, it'll give you the analytics... So if we forward this to Paula or whatever other potential stakeholder, we'll know where they care the most."

The team also discussed their post-meeting follow-up strategy, using Dr. Mitchum as an advocate:

Marcus Noel: "Dr. Mitchum, she's going to be cheerleading. She's going to be, oh, meet this person, blah, blah, blah... I have Paul's email and I have the assistant, Jackson. So then it's like post a meeting, we just flip it over like real quick to them."

8. Professional Appearance & Logistics (30:00 - 33:45)

The conversation turned to appropriate attire for the White House meeting:

  • Business casual or business professional dress recommended
  • Avoiding looking too politically aligned (e.g., not wearing a "red tie and a blue suit" like the president)

Marcus Noel: "Dr. Mitchum says, like, just, like, be, like, chill. So you can wear really, like, anything, but just, we don't need to be looking all extra."

Ron inquired about finding a barber in DC, and Marcus offered to connect him.

9. Final Identity Alignment (33:45 - 36:30)

The team clarified their collective identity and positioning:

  • Identifying as co-founders/founding team of GodWave
  • Using ministerial credentials when appropriate given it's a faith-based context
  • Emphasizing their established ministry with "400 members"

Arielle Noel: "We're a ministry in the marketplace in the media like this is the stuff we learned in in in ordination like Literally ministry in the marketplace. It's a thing like we're currently right now."

Ien Chi: "It's like, it's such perfect timing too... this seems like the time when all of us are finding each other. And when we found each other, we realized we could be this collective... like all the separate nodes are coming together right now, you know, and it's like this wave that's happening in real time. No pun intended."

Key Themes & Insights

  1. Spiritual Discernment: The team approaches the White House meeting as a spiritual test requiring prayer, fasting, and careful discernment.

  2. Strategic Positioning: They craft their roles and presentation to effectively communicate their expertise to an older audience while maintaining authenticity.

  3. Political Awareness: The team demonstrates awareness of the broader political context, particularly "Christian nationalism," while focusing on their authentic faith mission.

  4. Collective Identity: They embrace the "collective" framing, positioning themselves as a unified ministry with complementary skills rather than separate individuals.

  5. Relationship Leverage: They strategically use Dr. Mitchum as an advocate and connector, recognizing her crucial role in opening the White House door.

  6. Responsive Approach: Rather than entering with demands, they focus on being present and responsive to divine guidance and potential opportunities.

  7. Youth Advantage: They recognize their youth as a key differentiator in a room likely filled with older faith leaders, positioning themselves as bridges to younger generations.

  8. Media Sophistication: The team demonstrates media savvy in how they plan to track engagement with their presentation and craft compelling messaging.

  9. Faith-Political Navigation: They display nuanced understanding of how to maintain authentic faith while navigating political environments.

  10. Strategic Follow-up: They plan for post-meeting engagement rather than viewing the White House visit as an end in itself.