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2025-12-27-gary-tim-strategic-zeal-fellowship-vision
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date:
2025-12-27
related people:
["tim-dort-golts"]
location:
Video Call

Call Summary: Strategic Zeal and Christofuture Fellowship Vision

Overview

Profound strategic and theological conversation where Gary shared his refined Christofuture Foundation proposal (removing school focus to avoid overcomplication) and Tim introduced the concept of "strategic zeal." Both developed the framework of God as the "ultimate fellowship director" and the vision of a "hyper-agentic body of Christ" where kingdom builders multiply each other's impact exponentially.

Key Topics Discussed

Refined Christofuture Foundation Proposal

  • Simplified Focus: Gary removed the school component from the proposal to avoid adding $500K budget complexity and over-complication
  • Core Identity: Gary affirmed being a "community guy" and "movement builder" rather than school operator: "I'm just, like, not designed for that. I just really don't think I'm designed for that. I think I'm designed for communities."
  • Tony Sheng Validation: Gary's brother confirmed the fellowship/talent-scouting approach makes sense with Gary's CU background
  • Next Steps: Send to Santi for review before New Year, then to Mikey with potential video presentation

Tim's "Strategic Zeal" Concept

  • Definition: Being zealous for God while being strategic about timing and approach - not burning bridges unnecessarily
  • Versus Blind Zeal: Pushing schools prematurely or including charismatic messaging that wouldn't resonate with the audience
  • God as Model: "God does that. He knows everything already. He knows the truth. It's just that we wouldn't understand it if he drops it all on us in one go."
  • Application: Meeting people where they are, withholding some messaging while still believing, building alliances over purity

God as Ultimate Fellowship Director

  • Divine Sequencing: Gary articulated that God is like the "CEO of the God fellowship" slowly seeding and testing people before revealing more
  • Bandwidth Metaphor: Like downloading YouTube videos - connection gradually forms (1 bit, 2 bits, 4 bits...) as trust is established
  • Prophetic Perfect Tense: "The work is already done. By his stripes, I was healed. By his faithfulness, the villages were built."
  • Key Realization: "All we got to do is focus on ourselves, be obedient" - Tim's response to what makes prophecy come true

Hyper-Agentic Body of Christ

  • One Plus One Equals Eleven: Each new addition to the network should force-multiply everyone else's impact
  • Collective Identity: "We are the hyperagent" - moving from individualistic hyper-agents to a hyper-agentic body
  • High Bar for Addition: "Adding a one needs to be like adding an extra digit" - order of magnitude more capacity
  • Network Examples: Gary-Tim-Mikey already demonstrating this multiplier effect

Trans-Denominational Movement Building

  • Divine Proof: Gary reflected on how God keeps putting different denominations in his path: Mormons (Travis, Prenda), Catholics (Brett Johnson), Orthodox, Charismatics (Apostle Delmar), Cessationists (Mikey's church)
  • Tim's Summary: "Christofuture is blind to denominations. Christofuture is agnostic for denomination."
  • Gary's Conclusion: "God wants me to be a trans-denominational, multidominational movement builder"
  • Focus Shift: From denominational fighting to "loving and activating the obedient"

2025 Lessons on Capital and Character

  • Investment Learning: Gary discovered some investments yielded nothing (fashion guy Sam Gregor made excuses) while others like Isaiah delivered
  • Character Markers: "Keeping your word is a very Christian idea... that's one of the biggest markers of whether you're... I don't care if you go to church. You can stick to your words."
  • Alpha Reflection: Validated that Gary was right about Alpha's trajectory but also learned about pride and political navigation

Spiritual Brotherhood Affirmation

  • Mutual Commitment: Tim: "I'll take a bullet for you too, brother. Wouldn't even hesitate... Dying is scary. This is why it matters."
  • Divine Orchestration Recognition: Both acknowledged they wouldn't be at this level of thought without each other
  • God's Design: "We weren't meant to do things alone. It's totally a one plus one equals eleven thing."

Tim's Personal Updates

  • Family Time: Good Christmas with family, better than expected
  • Sister Relationship: Reconnecting with sister who is healthier and earning money independently
  • Plans: Adventures around local French towns, some offline time before New Year

Key Quotes

  • Gary: "God already created the Christofuture Foundation. All we got to do is be like Christ. Walk the steps."
  • Tim: "Strategic zeal is doing what it takes in the now, including meeting people where they are, including withholding some messaging while still believing what you believe in."
  • Gary: "Whatever God created you to be capable of being the best in the world at, try. Give it your all."
  • Tim: "I'm not going to say meta-denomination is the way. I think Christofuture is blind to denominations."
  • Gary: "The age of the fake, selfish liar like Sam Altman will be over... And the age of the hyper-agentic body of Christ is coming."
  • Gary on movement building: "Everything has been about movement. So now it's like, okay, I'm building God's movement. That's it."

Action Items / Takeaways

  • Gary to send Santi the refined proposal tomorrow for feedback before New Year
  • Gary to send Torren and Steen a curated guide/update on progress
  • Plan video presentation (TikTok/vertical format) for Mikey as "New Year's gift"
  • Both committed to continued obedience as foundation for prophetic fulfillment
  • Tim potentially going offline for a few days to enjoy France before New Year

Theological Framework Developed

  • Obedience as Prophecy Fulfillment: The work is done in prophetic perfect tense; human role is obedience
  • Sequencing is Sacred: God reveals progressively as we prove faithful with little
  • Strategic Zeal vs. Blind Zeal: Christ-like approach of meeting people where they are while maintaining truth
  • Collective Hyperagency: Moving from individual hyperagents to a body that exponentially multiplies impact