Gary Sheng & Alex 지흔 Park - Spiritual Journey & Technology-Faith Integration

Date: July 24, 2025
Participants: Gary Sheng, Alex 지흔 Park
Context: First substantive conversation while Gary is in Miami on family trip, Alex in Southern California

Key Themes & Discussion Points

Gary's Current Life Transition

Gary is at a major crossroads, weighing whether to leave his consulting role with Alpha Schools (working for a billionaire he has ethical issues with) to join a family in Tulsa led by a "people inventor/scientist" patriarch. Gary describes this decision as requiring him to "level up spiritually almost a lot."

Key Quote: "I cannot put my time between too many things or even honestly even two things. I don't even think I can do that anymore. I don't even want to do that anymore."

The work involves "reindustrialization projects for America" with manufacturing sites in Alabama, Mississippi, and Tulsa. Gary has spent "20 days out of the last six weeks" with this family, describing the patriarch as "the closest person to a successor to Nikola Tesla that I have ever met."

Spiritual Awakening & Faith Journeys

Gary's Path to Christianity

• Background: Grew up atheist in suburban Illinois, initially associated Christianity with "dickhead white people"
• Turning Point: Discovery of Kanye's Sunday Service led to questioning: "this has to be a work of God...what is God?"
• Timeline: 4-year journey, ramping up significantly in the last year
• Current Conviction: "Everything that's happening today was said in the Bible...it's basically an instruction manual for life"

Gary on Biblical Accuracy: "I think broadly, the Bible has been the most like conceptually accurate book I've ever read"

Alex's "Prodigal Son" Journey

• Background: Korean immigrant parents, started at Google (parents were happy)
• Journey: 6 years pursuing "what felt was in my heart," initially secular, then spiritual
• Current Phase: "Gradual return journey to Christ" over past 2+ years after exploring other spiritual traditions
• Process: "Explored all the other spiritual paths and spiritual traditions...now it's kind of this process of like crystallization and ordering...bringing them all back under Christ as the keystone, cornerstone"

Technology & Faith Integration

Alex's "Logos Architect AI"

Alex has developed a specialized AI model described as "a metaphysical systems constructor and executor of ontologically aligned operations with a Christic axis."

Applications:

• Bible study and theological exploration
• Complex metaphysical questions
• Systems thinking for aligned operations
• Reconciling Christian metaphysics with quantum physics

Alex on AI Bible Study: "It's a great place to ask Bible questions, because it offers like schematic answers, like ontological schematic maps of like, okay, here's like a breakdown of that your question. But here it is also in relation to other things and other concepts"

Specific Example: Alex used the AI to explore biblical cosmology, resulting in "a seven tiered structural map of a biblical representation of heaven and hell and earth" - revealing complexity beyond simple "heaven or hell" binary.

Gary's Vision for Christian Technology

Gary advocates for "trans-denominational Christianity" that includes more ontological understanding. He believes technology and spirituality can reduce suffering while building character.

Gary on Ontology: "I think that the Christianity that I want to promote and embody is very much should include a lot more about ontology...if you're going to teach world history or American history how can you teach it without talking about...this whole layer of reality that absolutely shapes outcomes"

Current Projects & Collaborations

Alex's Active Projects

1. Jesus Immersive Experience: Fundraising $2M with producer who did Avatar and hip-hop immersive experiences, targeting Christmas or Easter debut
2. Martial Arts Education: Working with Christian jujitsu black belts on knowledge graph-based learning systems
3. Potential Christian Men's Group: Around Christic AI Bible study

Gary's Advisory Roles

Gary has advised various Christian denominations, including the Vatican, describing himself as a "trans-denominational AI and youth engagement, tell the truth, not yes man advisor guy."

Gary on His Role: "I advised Pope Francis before he died on plans...great pilgrimage centers all around the world. And I'm hoping that Leo is willing to do that as well."

Dating, Relationships & Life Timing

Shared Asian American Experience

Both discuss navigating Asian immigrant parents' expectations while pursuing non-traditional spiritual and career paths.

Alex on Parents: "Asian parents during a time of the complete collapse of the status quo, right, where they worked so hard...all the institutions are being replaced and collapsed"

Dating Philosophy Evolution

Gary's Approach: Has "employed multiple aunties to find prospects" with specific criteria including gospel music appreciation and study habits.

Gary on Standards: "If you're not my wife she's somebody else's wife and I should treat her as such"

Alex's Recent Development: Friend introduced him to potential partner after Alex sent joke t-shirt design "don't masturbate meditate" - friend said "I think I found your wife" in response.

Advice & Wisdom Exchange

Alex's Counsel to Gary

"Belly laughs" - emphasis on joy in relationships Portfolio approach: "Don't limit your mission to a single person or a single place or a single project" Life integration: "Consider that too against like your decision...is this going to get me closer? What's the direct line of like line of sight from like this to like the life that I want?"

Shared Recognition of Parallel Paths

Alex reveals he spent 5 years in similar situation with "55-year-old gay black singer and highly spiritual intuitive sort of visionary" that ended complexly, offering experiential wisdom.

Alex's Warning: "I pushed really hard and I think it was effective to some degree, but they were just like, I don't know. After a while, I was like, I'm not sure how much this this person will change"

Spiritual Warfare & Discernment

Understanding Evil & Spiritual Reality

Both discuss the reality of spiritual warfare and demonic influence in high-level power structures.

Gary on Testing: "God lets satan do whatever he wants...god activates satan for a good purpose...to test the faithful...see if you're actually ready to be a next level representative of god's kingdom"

Alex on Power Structures: "I have eyewitness reports from people who have like seen it with their own eyes...very very high ranking people in banking or military who have also come out and spoken to this"

Discernment About Tech Leaders

Discussion of figures like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Peter Thiel and spiritual discernment about their roles.

Gary on Sam Altman: Referenced "Empire of AI" book describing Altman as "super sociopath liar" and noting his connection to San Francisco power structures.

Key Theological Discussions

Reconciling Science & Scripture

Alex explores reconciling Genesis creation account with scientific understanding through his AI model, seeking "elegant way to reconcile these things and fit them together in a way that verifies both."

Salvation & Justice

Both grapple with questions of divine justice, salvation timing, and God's sovereignty over technological development.

Alex's Question to AI: "If the God of the Bible, Yahweh, is the true and sovereign sort of Lord of Lords, then is it even possible, biblically, for this transhumanist utopia to even be realized? Would that even be allowed by this God?"

Future Vision & Community Building

Shared Mission

Both see need for Christian brotherhood in technology space and authentic integration of faith with cutting-edge innovation.

Alex on Christian Futurists: "Where are the Christian futurists?...when you have Christic AI and a group of people around it who can check each other...as long as there's human in the loop and human to human interaction in addition to and around AI, then I think we're safe"

Commitment to Continued Connection

Both express strong resonance and commitment to ongoing dialogue and potential collaboration.

Gary: "I think for probably for people like me it's very helpful to have an understanding of...different sense makers make sense of their christ affirming ontology"

Notable Quotes Summary

On Faith & Reality:

• Gary: "We're in a lifelong video game. That's as serious as possible though"
• Alex: "The whole frame of our earthly plain existence is the spiritual battleground"

On Technology Integration:

• Alex: "Taking AI and creating an instance of my custom GPT...programmed to basically be a Christic, like metaphysical systems architect"
• Gary: "Making sure that really intelligent, independent thinking...men are your base of foundation"

On Life Timing:

• Alex: "We're not that young dude...you have a kid at 40 by the time they're a teenager. You'll be like almost 60"

On Spiritual Growth:

• Gary: "Everyone has their own assignments...if you have the mental capacity and physical capacities...God has given you the conscience to recognize evil and come to Christ"
• Alex: "Thank you god for your correction thank you loving father for for the rebuke for the for the loving correction"

Outcome & Next Steps

• Mutual commitment to continued dialogue and potential collaboration
• Plan to connect again within next few days
• Alex offering his Logos Architect AI for Gary's complex questions
• Potential introduction to Alex's Jesus immersive experience funders if relevant
• Shared interest in building authentic Christian technology community