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2026-01-07-gary-tamara-carlos-apostle-delmar-deliverance-thermostatCall/Meeting Summary: Deliverance Session with Career Coaching
Overview
Extended hangout with Tamara Brown at a coffee shop pivoted into a powerful ministry session when Gary connected Carlos Villavicencio and Apostle Delmar Coward Jr. via phone. Apostle Delmar delivered both Carlos (anxiety/harassing spirits) and Tamara (broken heart, military/job trauma) while teaching profound principles on "thermometer vs thermostat" spiritual warfare and "quantum leaping" through forgiveness.
Key Topics Discussed
Tamara's Career Transition
Leaving the School District:
- Tamara quit her special education aide position at Da Vinci charter school due to toxic environment
- Superintendent created hostile, surveillance-like atmosphere: "It feels like a concentration camp"
- When she gave honest feedback that the school was "chaotic and disorganized," he retaliated by removing her from working with kids
- He told her: "No woman's ever talked to me like that in 30 years"
- Final straw: watching parents cry because their kids can't read while staff says "it is what it is"
Entrepreneurial Pivot:
- Previously made $10K/month teaching Spanish independently without overhead or degree
- Just hired a manager for brand deals as of yesterday
- Got first paid public speaking gig: $75 for 10 minutes of poetry at Upstage Comedy
- New clients already reaching out (fraternity wanting group Spanish training before trip)
Gary's Strategic Advice:
- Positioned Tamara not just as Spanish teacher but as cultural strategist for talent agencies
- Referenced Bad Bunny Super Bowl as example of Latin American market importance
- Suggested targeting celebrities/entertainers who want to expand into Latin America
- "You're not just teaching Spanish... if you're gonna do an interview on a local news channel here, how can I really shine? What are phrases I can say, what are local [references]?"
- Key insight: "Personality is basically... the value that's going up in the age of AI"
Carlos's Spiritual Struggle
Anxiety Crisis:
- Carlos joined via phone, admitted being "riddled with anxiety right now"
- Apostle Delmar immediately discerned: "I can hear it... And they are spirits. There's the spirits of darkness. Their mission is to kill, steal, destroy."
Deliverance Teaching:
- Emphasized the importance of staying in the Word: "You gotta keep eating... the devil's attached. You keep feeding on the word of God"
- Taught on free will: "God made everybody free-willed agents... He's not a dictator"
- Cast out harassing spirits in Jesus' name
Apostle Delmar's "Thermometer vs Thermostat" Teaching
Core Principle:
- "A thermometer just checks the temperature... A thermostat... We're gonna change this room"
- Christians shouldn't be led by environmental pressure but should transform environments
Pool Hall Testimony:
- Initially got "beat down" spiritually visiting Slick Willie's pool hall with coworkers
- Returned with different approach: "I stepped in the door... I say, 'Hey, I am in the house, and I declare, in the name of Jesus Christ... I own this'"
- Was louder than everyone quoting scripture
- Challenged pool champion Al James to play: "If you win, I'll take you wherever you want to go for lunch. If I win, you go to church with me"
- Won miraculously (first time playing pool) on a bank shot with the eight ball
- Al came to church and got born again
- Key quote: "When the darkness is all around you, you go in your room, the dark is dark. What do you do? You flip the switch."
Quantum Leaping Teaching
Forgiveness and Entanglement:
- Referenced neurologist Caroline Leaf's work on "quantum leaping"
- Core principle: "Whenever somebody has hurt you and you didn't say those words [of forgiveness] out of here... you're still connected to them and they're still hurting you"
- When you forgive: "Snap. It cuts the chain. The chain is broken... Now they can't hurt you anymore"
- Connected to Jesus on the cross: "Father forgive them for they know not what they're doing"
- Gary connected the dots: "Quantum entanglements" - that's the spiritual physics
Biblical Foundation:
- "70 times 7" - constant forgiveness
- "No soldier entangles himself with the affairs of this world, that he might please him who has called him"
Tamara's Deliverance and Heart Healing
Identifying the Wounds:
- Apostle Delmar discerned three areas of brokenness: military trauma, job situation, and a relationship ("there's also a guy thing involved")
- Taught on Isaiah 61: "He's anointed me to restore the brokenhearted"
- Connected broken heart to faith issues: "You can't be in faith with a broken heart"
- James teaching: "A double minded man" literally means "a man of two hearts"
The Prayer:
- Led Tamara through confession and forgiveness prayer
- Had her forgive "him" (the man), military people, job people
- Declared sevenfold return for everything stolen
- Cast out harassing spirit in Jesus' name
- Declared chains broken and freedom received
Recompense Teaching:
- When unjustly treated, declare recompense: "My God will make them come through"
- Referenced Israelites spoiling Egypt: borrowed gold and treasure, never intended to return it
- "That's recompense. All of that pressure, all that unjust treatment... when you start declaring recompense, the Bible says vengeance is mine saith the Lord"
Key Quotes
Apostle Delmar on Thermostat Living:
"A thermometer just checks the temperature. A thermostat... You gonna come at me, you're gonna bring your darkness against me, I'm gonna light you up... Don't make me flip the switch. I'm gonna light it up. That's one thing [the devil] cannot stand is light, and I am full of it."
Apostle Delmar on Quantum Leaping:
"Quantum leaping is the reason Jesus on the cross said Father forgive them for they know not what they're doing... whenever somebody has hurt you and you didn't say those words of forgiveness... you're still connected to them and they're still hurting you. When you just said forgive them, snap. It cuts the chain."
Apostle Delmar on Kingdom Language:
"There's a language in your kingdom that dominates everything on this earth, no matter what language it is... You give your angels the opportunity to work for you because you're speaking the right language."
Tamara on Dark Environments:
"I feel like if you stay in a dark place too long, it overcomes you... Why would you struggle purposely if God is telling you not to be there?"
Gary on Personality Value:
"Personality is basically, like, a human personality is... the value that's going up in the age of AI."
Action Items / Takeaways
- Tamara: Focus on Spanish/talent agency positioning; leverage manager for effective brand deal negotiations; declare sevenfold return and recompense over past injustices
- Carlos: Lock in spiritually, attend Apostle Delmar's online services, bring parents to join
- Gary: Link Carlos to Encounter Church service
- All: Practice "thermostat" approach to hostile environments rather than retreating
- Key principle: Forgiveness isn't about feelings but about cutting spiritual entanglements
Theological Framework
Thermometer vs Thermostat
The difference between being shaped by environment vs. shaping it. Christians with kingdom authority should "flip the switch" and transform dark spaces rather than being overcome by them.
Quantum Leaping/Entanglement
Unforgiveness creates ongoing spiritual connections to those who hurt us. Spoken forgiveness ("I forgive them in Jesus' name") breaks these chains regardless of feelings. This is why Jesus modeled forgiveness on the cross.
Sevenfold Return & Recompense
- Sevenfold: Proverbs 6:31 - thieves must repay sevenfold
- Recompense: God's justice for unjust treatment (Isaiah 61, Israelites and Egypt)
- Both are declared and received by faith, not by lawsuit or revenge