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Call Summary: Kingdom Society Design and Propaganda Machine Architecture
Overview
Pivotal strategic conversation developing the architecture for Gary's Christian secret society funded by Mike Ajouz. Gary and Tim crystallized the vision around "taking back territory" for Christ through a multi-pronged approach: tokenized talent agency for Christian firebrands, kingdom propaganda machine, Y Combinator-style incubator for Christian entrepreneurs, and real estate plays. Established December 29th target for presentation to Mikey with design sessions planned beforehand.
Key Topics Discussed
Tim's Personal Updates
Health:
- TMJ (temporomandibular joint) clicking issue - visited French doctor who provided exercises
- Doctor explained it's fixable with 3-5x daily exercises over three weeks
- Conducted appointment mostly in French: "Mostly things we discussed were in French and I could even understand it"
Academic:
- Completing French homework at Kedge Business School
- Met with academic coordinator for scholarship documentation
- Described head as "foggy" from intensive study
Gary's Bible Study Update
- Attended Bible study invited by Santi (from previous day's Mike Ajouz meeting)
- Met at AI showcase event, talked for an hour, Santi introduced Gary to Mike
- Gary: "Divine coordination" in how relationships formed
Society Architecture Development
Core Structure - Two Components:
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The Society (Nonprofit/Foundation):
- Secret society of "hyper-agentic Christians"
- Scouting and gathering "kingdom geniuses"
- Framework development for how society operates
- Gary as initial leader + first member with his own project
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The Propaganda Machine (Startup):
- Tokenized talent agency for Christian firebrands
- Platform for launching "kingdom advancing campaigns"
- Starting with Christian microschool movement
- Tech infrastructure automating legal/financial aspects
Tim's Summary of Mission:
"We are primarily building a secret society of highly influential hyper-agentic Christians... Their devotion to Christ, devotion to taking back the land for Christ, and their capabilities."
Tokenized Talent Agency Concept
Core Innovation:
- Invest in Christian "firebrands" (charismatic teachers, parents, thought leaders)
- Fractional ownership of their future earnings (book deals, speaking, documentaries)
- Crypto/tokenization enables democratic investment
- Different from donation - investors get ROI
Gary's Breakthrough:
"What is the way that you can invest in a cause right now? How do you invest in Mindshare, bro? You invest in Gary's entity. That the first Mindshare campaign is related to Christian micro schools. Boom."
Platform Vision:
- UI where anyone can connect credit card and own piece of a firebrand's future
- Legal documents "really, really well done"
- Accountability through market signals - poor performers don't get more investment
Gary on Differentiation from Soros:
"The way to beat a billionaire that's pumping money into something that isn't market viable is to make a financial engine that actually, once you build the rails, becomes a self-sustaining system."
"Taking Back Territory" Framework
Tim's Articulation of Mission:
"Taking back the cultural relevance of Christianity through taking back the land, both physical and metaphorical."
Territory Types Identified:
- Physical: Real estate, schools, churches
- Metaphorical: Culture, entertainment, memes
- Digital: Apps, platforms, media
- Economic: Money flows, investment vehicles
- Educational: Schools, curriculum
- Policy: Government, regulations
Gary's "Meta Real Estate" Concept:
"This is a real estate company... Virtual, digital, educational... Physical, actual land... It's super real estate. Hyper real estate. Supernatural estate."
Soros Model Analysis
Tim's First Principles Analysis:
"The Source model was effective because it was protocolized, it was mass scale... Submit your project idea and how much funding you need and how useful it will be to our agenda."
Key Insight - Volume vs. Unicorns:
"It is more about finding multiple good talent, multiple great talent. Not necessarily unicorns, but by multiple, I mean hundreds, thousands of them."
Spiky POV Developed:
"The evil shows us this works... The fruit is plentiful, very ripe. Of atheism, of Soros... The gayness, the suicide rates. This was effective. This model works. We just got to [do it for Christ]."
Y Combinator Model Application
Gary's Vision:
- Incubator for "systemic self-sustaining kingdom growing" ventures
- Each "kingdom entrepreneur" owns a meaningful project
- Society provides: mentorship, legal infrastructure, resources
- Get rich while growing the kingdom
Investment Principle:
"You made this in a secular world, let's make you a hundred times more serving the kingdom. But you can only really do that here because we have unbelievable curation of talent."
Real Estate Strategy
Physical Land Plays:
- Buy real estate next to churches that appreciate due to school/church presence
- "Affordable Christian crypto futures communities"
- Gary: "I want to raise billions to buy Liberty"
Tokenizing Church Land:
- Identified as potential "Gary Thiel fellowship grantee" project
- Making church/Christian real estate investable
Billy Graham Integrity Model
Gary's Bible Study Learning:
"Billy Graham had bodyguards preventing women from coming into any private rooms. That's why he's the only dude that was so famous in Christianity that no one had anything negative to say about him."
Application to Society:
- Systems to prevent corruption
- Positive incentive: all-in members get resources, mentorship, infrastructure
- Negative incentive: "If you fuck up, good luck working in the secular world"
- Alternative economy for kingdom builders
MVP and Funding Strategy
Immediate Ask:
- $100-200k grant to foundation for Gary's time
- Scouting "kingdom geniuses" - hyper-agentic Christians willing to die for cause
- Framework development for society operations
Gary's Approach:
"My gift should just give me money for both [society and propaganda machine]. The society is no dilution while exploring. The startup I'll raise money for later in the year."
Timeline:
- December 29th presentation to Mikey
- Multiple design sessions before then
- Gary: "Put our best foot forward and allow him to tear apart the spiky POV"
Complementary Talent Strategy
Tim's Framework:
"Ideally, the specific field is going to be very complementary. If we have a cultural influence entertainment person and an education person and a tech person and a policy person, because they usually tend to be more effective when they niche down."
Synergy Example:
- Policy person helps education person in specific state through connections
- Entertainment person amplifies education message
- Tech person builds infrastructure for all
Gary's Self-Reflection on Mission
Devil's Target:
"I asked my buddy Alex, who is the devil afraid of? He chuckled... but it's true. He said Gary. Devil's afraid of me because I'm a force multiplier. I find the Garys, I create the conditions where the Holy Spirit gives them courage."
Jesus Year:
- Gary turning 33 - entering "Jesus year"
- Tim: "Somebody's about to be reborn"
- Gary: "Reborn for the mission. For the rest of my life."
Lifetime Commitment:
"This is something I can see myself doing for literally the rest of my life. So yeah, of course the devil has been trying to make me give up and kill myself this year. Because it's such a pivotal time."
Content Strategy Clarity
Gary's Audience Realization:
"Even if the only people that read that are my future fellows, that's all that matters. I don't need to make a commercial. I don't need to dumb it down. It's for the Garys."
Behind-the-Scenes Role:
"Not useful for me to build a brand around [dunking on secular education]. But it's useful for me to be behind the scenes, making stuff happen."
Substack Perspective:
- Comparing to fast-growing Substack writer (700 subs in 2 weeks vs. Gary's 700 total)
- Realization: "We have completely different audiences. I don't need random people on Substack following me."
Key Quotes
Gary on Mission:
"This is like Peter Thiel and George Soros together."
Tim on Design:
"There are so many design choices. Bro, this is so cool."
Gary on Territory:
"The kingdom is inside of you. When we build a kingdom, it's really about turning people's hearts."
Tim on Obedience:
"Even though we don't necessarily see the next step all the time, we still step in faith. We still step in obedience."
Gary on Tim:
"With Tim Dort-Golts by our side, how can we lose?"
Tim on Gary:
"One of the most important connections that you've ever made for me. So catalytic. I want to be a Tim to a lot of people in my lifetime."
Prayer Highlights
Tim's Prayer:
"Help us design the society... Turn it from an idea in our minds to an idea on paper into an actual, existing, working, living, impacting, useful thing that exists in the real world."
Referenced Habakkuk 2:2: "Write the vision and make it plain on tablets, so that a runner can read it"
Gary's Prayer:
"Thank you for Tim... I want to always be pushing myself to be of service to humanity like Tim was helping me do... We don't have to get it all done in one day. That's also disrespecting you as our most important co-founder."
Action Items / Takeaways
- December 29th Presentation - Target date for presenting to Mikey
- Design Sessions - Multiple sessions before presentation to crystallize vision
- Brain Dump Document - Create written overview of society/propaganda machine
- Spiky POVs - Develop clear, defensible positions for each design choice
- Soros Research - Study model for what worked (protocolization, mass scale)
- Tim to Send Transcript - For continued async collaboration
Observations
Strategic Evolution:
- Gary synthesizing Holy Ghost Talent Agency (from Alex call) with Mike's society funding
- Moving from abstract vision to concrete architecture
- Recognizing need for both nonprofit (society) and for-profit (propaganda machine) vehicles
Tim's Role:
- First principles thinking on mission and structure
- Soros model analysis providing blueprint
- Prayer partner and spiritual accountability
- Scheduled design session collaborator
Funding Strategy:
- Mikey for society foundation ($100-200k exploration grant)
- Separate raise later for propaganda machine startup
- No dilution during exploration phase
- Multiple potential investors identified (Brenda, Alpha/Joe for propaganda machine)