Metadata
Deep Strategic Conversation with Beef Jones
Key Participants
- Gary Sheng (@gary-sheng.md)
- Beef Jones (@beef-jones.md)
Major Topics Discussed
Conspiracy Theories and Global Power Structures
The conversation began with discussions of deep conspiracies involving Jewish influence, Epstein connections, and historical manipulations:
"Put together a... Do you know that Andrew Cuomo is Netanyahu's lawyer? This is how deep this shit gets." - Beef Jones
"They literally have blackmailed everybody. Like, you always steal everybody's real, real, real, real... Like, everybody. Everybody." - Beef Jones
Gary and Beef connected these to biblical prophecies:
"Satan has captured America. That's just... The synagogue has captured America." - Gary Sheng
"We're completely... Like, when I say we, like, let's get outside of the nation-state boundaries. Humanity has been captured." - Gary Sheng
They discussed entertainment industry abuses:
"That shit's been going on forever. Since the 70s. It's the 60s. They've been raping and drugging fucking actresses." - Beef Jones
9/11 suspicions:
"I was in West Broadway. I was at 180 West Broadway when the fucking planes hit. Or whatever they did." - Beef Jones
"Silverstein had a $2 billion policy against it." - Beef Jones
Biblical short season of Satan:
"Satan's short season. After the thousand years of benevolence of Jesus Christ, unleashed from the bottomless pit, come save these minions." - Beef Jones
Noahide laws and preparations:
"The US government bought 100,000 guillotines and half a billion disposable coffins." - Beef Jones
Firmament and flat earth theories:
"The book says. There's a firmament. Okay. The waters separate the waters." - Beef Jones
"You look up at the stars and think. They don't look like stars. The only one star that looks like a star. The one that never moves. And that's Polaris." - Beef Jones
Ancient architecture mysteries:
"These buildings all around the world. That look just like that. Or built just like that." - Beef Jones
Kanye West and Cultural Influence Strategy
Extensive discussion about leveraging Kanye West for truth-telling:
"If Kanye still wants to go on this Jew thing, which he probably should." - Gary Sheng
"Kanye West could be the real lay out in your story. He went to China. 70,000 people showed up for him with apparently 100,000 outside. That is missionaries." - Beef Jones
Ghostwriting proposal:
"We should be ghostwriting his shit." - Gary Sheng
"You and I, plus other scholars, truth scholars, can just be a little collective. He doesn't need to get any credit. He's the vessel." - Gary Sheng
Kanye's impact:
"He literally is the only person that can go up against the dragon." - Beef Jones
"He's Daniel and the lions, like seriously... He went against everybody. He's scared of the lions." - Beef Jones
John Woo's role:
"John is now being positioned as like the head of culture or whatever for Gary." - Beef Jones
Kanye's financial situation:
"Apparently Kanye's broke. Right? Of course he is. You can't put money in any bank." - Beef Jones
Youth Education and Data Platform Vision
Beef proposed a comprehensive youth-focused platform:
"I'm going to create a data engine. For 11 to 17. But the problem is. My thing is. The problem is. Is that. I have to do it. COPA compliant." - Beef Jones
"Create our own data set. And. You know. Train the model. To create. To use these experiences. To then create. Real educational programs." - Beef Jones
City partnerships:
"I talked to the mayor of Newark and all the city councilmen in Newark, city councilwomen in Newark. And I did the same with the mayor of Gary, Indiana. So, they're willing to give us everything." - Beef Jones
"We're talking about like 80 million. The opportunity's in billions. But getting money from them is in the millions." - Beef Jones
Moral focus:
"Instead of selling their souls. Just to be rich. You can train a model. To create. What Joe. Is trying to do. And give it away for free." - Beef Jones
Alpha Schools Critique and Dr. Dre Introduction
Discussion of Alpha Schools issues:
"It's a shit show. Joe's not him, you know? Joe's not him." - Gary Sheng
"Zero commitment, zero vision, zero consistency, zero follow-through, nothing, right?" - Gary Sheng
Dr. Dre opportunity:
"Do you want to meet Dr. Dre? Dr. Dre wants you to come to his house and meet him." - Beef Jones
"He's about to take over. Kendrick's school. Centennial." - Beef Jones
John Woo's motivation:
"He needs to change his image as Condé's Folklore." - Beef Jones
Lael Alexander Assessment and Doubts
Detailed concerns about Lael's legitimacy:
"Tai told you. He's like, he went on a fact-finding mission because he's doing a documentary. And he's like, nothing's coming back right, bro." - Beef Jones
"The woman who's the head of the city council there, they put me on the phone with her. She was like, yeah, whatever you do with layout, just make sure you get it right. She's like, he's been known to disappear." - Beef Jones
"He's done this a bunch. This is not going to work." - Beef Jones
Physical observations:
"When I look around the house, and I was like, a lot of this stuff doesn't feel, feels like very old. You know? I'm going to the workshop and everything is dusted." - Beef Jones
"There was less dust on the expensive car than there was on anything else." - Beef Jones
Wife's demeanor:
"She's either enabling him or she just, like, said, Fuck it. This is the lifestyle we have." - Beef Jones
Potential CIA connection:
"Is he CIA?" - Beef Jones
Psychological analysis:
"If it would have happened, it would have happened already. Like, I feel like last ten... Whatever it was, it's like he probably had a brief spark and he missed his moment." - Beef Jones
"There's no way. There's no way. Those are not just random skin tags." - Beef Jones (referring to birthmarks)
Personal Philosophies and Masculinity
Discussions on gender roles and society:
"Men learn through experience. Women learn through emotions and learning and looks. Men have to put their fucking hands in it." - Beef Jones
"World building is a male thing." - Beef Jones
"As soon as your girl stops being jealous, it's over." - Gary Sheng
Sobriety commitments:
"I told my wife that I was going to stop inebriates of all kinds and go focus for, like, a year." - Beef Jones
Kanye West's China Impact
"He went to China. 70,000 people showed up for him with apparently 100,000 outside." - Beef Jones
"He's working on Korea again. He's working on China. Well he got China. India. Russia. Moscow." - Beef Jones
Key Relationship Dynamics
- Strong alignment between Gary and Beef on conspiracies and moral imperatives
- Mutual respect for each other's insights and experiences
- Collaborative energy around youth platform and Kanye West strategy
- Shared skepticism about Lael Alexander based on multiple sources
Notable Quotes
On Global Capture:
"Humanity has been captured. All of humanity. All the power structures." - Gary Sheng
On Kanye as Vessel:
"He's the vessel. He is one of the vessels. He's not scared to speak out." - Gary Sheng
On Youth Platform Moral Imperative:
"Give them a fair fucking shot. Against the Matrix." - Beef Jones
On Lael Assessment:
"This is a scam, but it never... It's like... The shoe doesn't drop." - Beef Jones
On Masculinity:
"All men do this. All men, it's just a man thing." - Beef Jones
This conversation represents a pivotal strategic alignment between Gary and Beef, combining cultural influence, educational vision, and investigative insights while processing significant doubts about Lael Alexander's operations and planning major initiatives around youth development and truth-telling through high-profile figures like Kanye West.