Mayssam Daaboul: Family Dynamics and Spiritual Mentorship

Context

Late evening call between Gary Sheng (visiting parents) and Mayssam Daaboul (in Lebanon) where Gary shares struggles with non-believing parents, receives spiritual mentorship on family dynamics, and Mayssam provides updates on pregnancy and mutual friends.

Opening - Spiritual Intuition

Mayssam's Concern

• "Sheng. I was wondering where you've been. You haven't been writing"
• "Got a feeling maybe you were quite off. Maybe something happened"

Gary's Transparency

• First time revealing to Mayssam: "My parents... They're not believers"
• "I wouldn't say aggressive. I just know it's not the right time to talk about it"
• Challenge of transparency: "I don't like to tell them lies about where I'm at"

Family Dynamics Challenge

Gary's Current Situation

• Explained leaving Alpha Schools to parents
• "I don't have anything super solid right now. That's the truth"
• Parents experiencing anxiety about his situation
• Older brother (4 years older) also visited, recently divorced
• Brother working on startup for years that "hasn't really gone anywhere"

Communication Barriers

• Gary: "If Christ is supposed to be the most important thing. Then I can't talk about it"
• "It shapes how I am making all sorts of decisions in my life"
• "It's hard to even just share transparently what's on my mind"

Father's Trauma

• Gary reveals father's deep fear: "Some serious trauma around his sister, never leaving the house. Being a big burden on my grandpa and grandma's lives"
• Fear of replication: "That's definitely been something that he fears is replicating that situation"
• Gary's self-awareness: "Of course, I'm not going to let myself be like a deadbeat kid"

Mayssam's Parental Wisdom

Perspective Shift

• Mayssam's defense of Gary: "That deadbeat kid would be 24/7 in his room right now, and you wouldn't be able to get rid of one"
• "You wouldn't get a man that travels and successful and has tried multiple and several experiences and had amazing ups and downs, and he's evolving constantly"
• "I think his emotion is getting the best of him. And that would be so unfair if he used it"

Becoming Parent to Parents

Revolutionary Teaching:

• "At some point, you have to be the parents of your parents. They just give up. They're tired"
• "They wait for their sons to become this man that they can come up to"
• "Maybe this visit is about you allowing your father to open up to you"

Manifesting vs Explaining

• "You can't talk. You cannot explain. They wouldn't understand your spiritual growth"
• "Maybe it's the time for you to... be his father"
• "By trying to be next to him, he can see like, 'Oh, my God. My kid is so fucking wise. I can't believe it's him'"

Spiritual Growth Validation

Career vs Spiritual Development

• Mayssam: "Fuck your career, man. I love the spiritual growth"
• "He's so focused now on something much more important, which is you"
• "You're the one that drives the career. You're the one that heals the family"
• "The career will come in its due time... The Lord will multifold"

Recognition of Gary's Wisdom

• "Sometimes I go back and reread... your writing. It's amazing, man"
• "There are several moments when you touch on issues that takes a lot of wisdom"
• "It takes a lot of self knowledge. It takes a lot of reflection on life and pain and freedom"

Spiritual Testing Ground

• "This is your final boss. This is conquering our families, conquering the world"
• "Maybe God wanted to put you there just to get to the understanding that you are telling me right now"
• "This is the ultimate testing ground"

Gary's Spiritual Progress

Recent Growth

• Gary: "Some of the biggest progress I've made over the past year has been the last two and a half months, three months"
• "I've just spent more time with God"
• Challenge: "Until I can actually talk about that, it's kind of like... there's only so much I can talk about"

Upcoming Travel

• Wedding in a few days
• Vatican conference November 4th
• Considering contract work opportunities
• Planning return to Texas mid-November

Secular Advice Frustration

• Brother and parents offering typical advice: "Just get a job"
• Gary: "Their advice ends up being very typical. Right. Very secular"
• "As if the problem is confidence about getting some random job"
• Appreciation with reservation: "I appreciate where they're coming from, but yeah"

Mayssam's Personal Updates

Pregnancy Announcement

• "The wifey's pregnancy is going fine"
• "Expecting a big gift on Christmas"
• Requesting prayers for the pregnancy

Financial Peace

• "The Lord has finally... decided to start showing me some financial peace"
• "He's still doing it daily bread"
• Past struggle: "I've lived for a long time in my life with that pressure, not being able to sustain myself"
• Deep understanding: "So I understand that point completely, more than you can imagine"

Work Situation

• "Days been passing by too fast at work"
• "Pretty much work and preparing for the baby"
• Gratitude: "Which is, thank God, more than you can wish for"

Updates on Mutual Friends

Ian (Edan)

• Mayssam: "I'm in touch with Ian every now and then"
• Maintaining connection

Isaiah McCall

• "I spoke with Isaiah a couple of days ago. We had a phone call"
• "He hasn't been very much himself in Japan"
• Gary: "He's feeling a little uninspired there"
• Isaiah struggling: "He doesn't feel connected as much. He's trying to work it out"

Michelle and Zuzalu

• Michelle went to latest Zuzalu event in Turkey
• "He came back even more disappointed"
• Mayssam's analysis: "That's because they had Gary, and Gary understood balance and importance"
• Michelle's realization about Gary's role: "Oh, yes. I felt something was happening"
• Report of Vitalia City failing and breaking up

Reflection on Network States Movement

Gary's Realization

• Gary: "What do you think I realized the answer is? It's Christ"
• "They're all just in rebellion in different ways. That's what it is"

Mayssam's Validation

• Remembering Zuzalu: "I was always hyper and aggressive. I was always so fucking crazy and pissed off of all the shit I was hearing"
• "Getting someone from another universe and throwing him into universe of network states and transhumanism"
• "I don't care how fucked up is Lebanon. Please get me home"

Positive from Zuzalu

• "Building my relationship with you"
• "Still in touch with the Chinese group. They're amazing. Such nice people, so hardworking"
• "Christ told me just meet people. Meet people that have my spirit"

Lebanon Christmas Invitation

Mayssam's Invitation

• "Come Christmas. You come Christmas, we celebrate Christ"
• "Build your family, man, if you want"
• "See your nephew. Brand new out of the oven"
• Gary's response: "I like that"
• "Okay, let's be in touch about that"

Closing - Spiritual Brotherhood

Mayssam's Commitment

• "I'm gonna feel when you're not okay, brother"
• "So I'm gonna stay pinging"
• "Whatever you need, you know I'm here. Anytime"
• "I know your cross is heavy. I'm gonna be praying for that"

Mutual Prayer Requests

• Gary congratulating on pregnancy
• Mayssam: "Keep me in your prayers. My family and I, please"

Recognition of Gary's Journey

• Mayssam recognizing Gary as one of first people "so on fire for Christ"
• Understanding parent challenge: "I got it easier... My mom was always the staunch believer"
• Empathy: "That's fucking tough. Sorry you're going through this"
• Faith in Gary's capacity: "I know the big guy... was preparing your next battle. I don't envy you. But I know you're up to it"

Key Quotes

On Family Dynamics:

• Mayssam: "At some point, you have to be the parents of your parents"
• "He's known his son. He's met only his son, Gary. He doesn't know the other personas. I think it's time"
• "Maybe this is the time where you can't talk... but you can manifest it"

On Spiritual Growth:

• "Fuck your career, man. I love the spiritual growth... The Lord will multifold"
• "You're the one that drives the career. You're the one that heals the family"
• "This is the ultimate testing ground"

On Understanding:

• "I've lived for a long time in my life with that pressure, not being able to sustain myself. So I understand that point completely"
• "I think he's just tired. I think it's time he meets Gary for him"

On Christ as Answer:

• Gary: "What do you think I realized the answer is? It's Christ"
• Mayssam: "Amen"

Analysis

This conversation reveals Mayssam's profound role as spiritual father and mentor to Gary during a crucial family crisis. His ability to sense Gary's struggle from afar, combined with his own experience of financial pressure and family dynamics, positions him uniquely to provide both empathy and wisdom. The teaching about becoming "parent to your parents" represents a spiritual maturity milestone - recognizing when earthly parents reach their limits and need their children's wisdom. Mayssam's consistent prioritization of spiritual growth over career success ("Fuck your career, man") while acknowledging practical needs shows balanced mentorship. The invitation to Lebanon for Christmas, to meet his newborn child, represents the depth of spiritual family they've formed across cultures and continents. This conversation demonstrates how authentic Christian brotherhood transcends blood relationships when earthly families cannot understand spiritual transformation.