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Morning Business Framework Discussion - June 20, 2025

Gary Sheng & Victory Boyd - Phone Conversation​

Executive Summary​

A strategic business planning conversation where Victory Boyd proposed a comprehensive collaboration framework based on her experience working with Kanye West, establishing mutual investment protocols, arbitration agreements, and professional security measures for kingdom-centered work partnership.

SECTION 1: KANYE WEST COLLABORATION MODEL​

Historical Framework Reference​

Kanye's Operating Model: Victory detailed her previous professional structure:

"He essentially had me on pretty much every project that helped him develop tools. I was helping him write music. I was helping him write opera. I was pretty much... He operates in a similar way like you in that he brings many, many people together and he activates everyone in whatever they should come to his mind on a particular day."

Spiritual Asset Recognition: Kanye's appreciation for Victory's biblical and spiritual contributions:

"And what happened was he really believed that my contribution spiritually, in terms of my understanding of the Bible and my understanding of the Holy Spirit, is an asset to have involved in all of his projects."

Retainer-Based Structure: "And he had me on a retainer just for my time. And then, of course, I got royal contributions. It's a business relationship."

Geographic Flexibility: "Even though I moved to Wyoming for some time, I moved to Calabasas for some time" - demonstrating willingness to relocate for strategic collaboration.

Application to Gary Sheng Partnership​

Mutual Value Recognition: Victory positioned the collaboration as reciprocal investment:

"what I was thinking with us, I am vested to participate and help build. See me helping you build. Consulting kind of position. Or participating by traveling. You're helping me build the visions that I have."

Network Leverage Strategy: "So, in a way, the three-point career, leveraging your network and so forth to empower me."

Investment Justification: "And so it's like, it justifies, each of us are justified in investing heavily in each other because that's the nature of the agreement."

SECTION 2: BUSINESS SECURITY AND ARBITRATION FRAMEWORK​

Commitment Protection Mechanisms​

Arbitration Agreement Proposal: Victory emphasized need for dispute resolution structure:

"another thing that we can include in that agreement is something along the lines of arbitration, in the sense that there will be any sort of, before breaking up, what do they call it? Intermediary help, a third party that can help to sort things out before."

Value Exchange Recognition: "Because I think that there will be a significant amount of value exchange. And I think having an understanding that you don't just walk away, but you figure out how to make it work."

Asset Protection: "Or you figure out, okay, what belongs to you, what belongs to me, and then you part ways."

Investment Security Concerns​

Heart Investment vs. Business Commitment: Victory articulated core concern:

"Like, okay, if I invest my heart, but there's no commitment. Or if you invest your heart, but I'm not committed to you. Okay, so let's take out the hardship, and let's just look at it as a business dynamic. Even on a business dynamic, there should be some sort of security."

Effort Protection: "Like, understanding that, okay, I can put all this effort, I can put all of this energy. And if things go awry, at least we're going to work it out, or we're going to make the effort to work it out."

Loss Prevention: "But it's not like I'm just going to lose everything that I just put up."

Movement-Level Significance Recognition​

Strategic Importance: Victory positioned their work within broader cultural movement:

"I think overall, I think we're at the forefront of major movements and things. And there needs to be a level of safety."

Reference to Bishop Benjamin's Teaching: Connected to previous evening's dinner conversation:

"And it's kind of like how the pastor was saying last night. He was talking about friends that don't just leverage you to get to the next level, but they're committed to you."

SECTION 3: FLEXIBILITY AND AUTONOMY BALANCE​

Ownership Boundaries​

Mutual Independence: Victory emphasized balanced approach:

"And at the same time, there needs to be enough understanding to, like, neither of us owns each other, so there needs to be enough flexibility for each of us to have an out."

Consideration Requirements: "You know, but also understanding what needs to take place to consider the other person and the investment that we made in whatever we worked on."

Comfortable Investment Environment​

All-In Strategy: Victory's goal for framework development:

"Basically, these are just the kind of, like, dynamics I think would help to make a comfortable environment for going all in, if that makes sense."

Gary's Acceptance: Gary demonstrated openness to structured approach: "Yeah, makes sense."

SECTION 4: PROJECT-SPECIFIC CONSIDERATIONS​

Jesus Experience Project Distinction​

Gary's Clarification: Separate legal structure for major projects:

"Look, if we end up working on something like what Jesus experienced, I would want that to have its own team and legal agreements. So I just want to be clear about that."

Victory's Broader Vision: Beyond single project scope:

"But I just think it's not just that. I think there's all sorts of ways in which my career could be advanced, that I think... And I think there are ways in which I could help advance your career."

Relationship Value Beyond Projects​

Network Effects: "And, like, there's so much intermingled value in that, even just on a relationship dynamic of all the people that we would meet through each other, and all the things that would come from those transfers."

Holistic Collaboration: Recognition that value extends beyond discrete project deliverables.

SECTION 5: IMPLEMENTATION AND DOCUMENTATION​

Written Agreement Development​

Email Documentation: Gary proposed formal documentation process:

"But then we can get it in writing over email or something. Just so we feel like it's a real commitment, even if it's not a legal contract or something."

Flexibility Maintenance: "And at any time, we can just be like, this is too much, ask for not enough, receive, or whatever."

Victory's Agreement: "Yeah. So, yeah, we'll hash it out on email. We can go back and forth and fix some things."

Shared Commitment Framework​

Commitment to Commitment: Gary emphasized mutual dedication:

"let's get something in writing just so there's no ambiguity about a shared commitment to being committed, let's say, in a particular way."

SECTION 6: GRATITUDE AND VISION CLARITY​

Trip Impact Assessment​

Victory's Appreciation: Comprehensive gratitude for Tulsa experience:

"But I think this was an amazing experience. And I just want to say thank you for inviting me. And I'm excited to learn more who you are and this assignment and this vision and this mission that you're on."

Enhanced Understanding: "And I see it more clearly because of this trip. It's awesome."

Future Collaboration Enthusiasm: "And I'm looking forward to seeing it in ways in which I can come alongside you in this."

SECTION 7: PRACTICAL UPDATES AND TRAVEL PLANNING​

Gary's Schedule and Rest Patterns​

Sleep Schedule Adaptation: Gary noted improved rest in Tulsa:

"Sometimes I'll be like, oh, 5 o'clock a.m. That's fine. But it's been kind of nice, actually, because when I stay in Dr. Alexander's place, he'll only start the day at, like, 9 or 10."

Normal Schedule: "My normal time I'm up when I'm not here is, like, 4, 5, 6. But, ironically, I'll sleep more here."

Productivity Impact: "Which is nice because then I'll feel able to put in the work anyways."

Travel Considerations and Family Updates​

Vegas Flight Cost: Economic factor in travel decisions:

"The flight was so expensive. It was $500 to Vegas. $500. So, one way."

Parents' China Return: Family context affecting travel plans:

"I hadn't seen them for three months. And they were in China for three months. But they told me they needed some time just to readjust to the U.S. before I visit... They said to visit after July 4th."

Decision Simplification: "So, kind of made that decision easy to not visit them right now."

Brazil Opportunity Emergence​

Dr. Alexander's Invitation: New international opportunity development:

"And then Dr. Alexander was invited after Pops said the news to you to go to Brazil. So, he wants me to join. So, I need to figure out what the heck that means."

Gary's Response: Openness to international expansion with characteristic uncertainty about logistics.

SECTION 8: RELATIONSHIP APPRECIATION AND FUTURE CONNECTION​

Gratitude Expression​

Victory's Closing Appreciation: Comprehensive acknowledgment:

"Well, safe travels. In my regards to Dr. Alexander and Pops. Let them know that I'm thankful for the honor to meet them. I look forward to meeting them again soon."

Gary's Enthusiasm: "Awesome. Definitely. Alright. Let's make it happen."

Ongoing Communication Commitment​

Continued Dialogue: Both parties committed to maintaining regular communication as framework develops.

KEY STRATEGIC INSIGHTS​

Professional Framework Development​

Victory's proposal represents sophisticated understanding of:

  • Celebrity Collaboration Models: Leveraging Kanye West experience for kingdom work
  • Mutual Investment Protection: Ensuring both parties feel secure in significant commitments
  • Arbitration and Dispute Resolution: Professional approaches to relationship challenges
  • Project vs. Relationship Distinction: Understanding different legal and commitment structures

Spiritual-Business Integration​

The conversation demonstrates mature approach to:

  • Kingdom Work Professionalism: Treating spiritual calling with business sophistication
  • Heart vs. Head Balance: Protecting emotional investment while maintaining professional boundaries
  • Movement-Level Thinking: Recognizing their work within broader cultural transformation

International Expansion Potential​

Gary's mention of Brazil opportunity indicates:

  • Global Network Development: Dr. Alexander's international connections expanding
  • Strategic Partnership Evolution: Potential for international ministry and business development
  • Flexibility Requirements: Need for adaptable collaboration frameworks

PROPHETIC AND STRATEGIC SIGNIFICANCE​

Kanye West Model Redemption​

Victory's experience with Kanye provides template for:

  • Righteous Celebrity Collaboration: Taking proven industry structures and applying them to kingdom work
  • Spiritual Asset Recognition: Valuing biblical understanding and Holy Spirit sensitivity as business assets
  • Creative Project Integration: Involving spiritual advisors in all creative and strategic development

Professional Kingdom Work Pioneer​

This conversation represents pioneering approach to:

  • Faith-Based Consulting Relationships: Professional structures for spiritual collaboration
  • Movement Security: Protecting high-value kingdom relationships from competitive pressures
  • Cultural Transformation Strategy: Building sustainable structures for long-term cultural influence

International Ministry Platform Development​

The Brazil opportunity suggests:

  • Global Kingdom Network: Expansion beyond US-China focus to include South American connections
  • Technology-Ministry Integration: Potential for Dr. Alexander's innovations in international context
  • Strategic Partnership Mobility: Ability to rapidly deploy collaborative teams internationally

IMPLEMENTATION NEXT STEPS​

Immediate Actions Planned​

  1. Email Documentation: Develop written collaboration framework
  2. Legal Structure Clarification: Distinguish project-specific from general collaboration agreements
  3. Arbitration Process Development: Identify third-party intermediaries for dispute resolution
  4. Brazil Opportunity Assessment: Evaluate international expansion possibility

Long-Term Framework Development​

  1. Retainer Structure: Establish ongoing consulting relationship model
  2. Network Integration: Formal protocols for mutual network access and benefit
  3. Project Development: Clear processes for joint venture creation and management
  4. Investment Protection: Legal and relational safeguards for significant commitments

CONCLUSION​

This morning conversation represents a watershed moment in professionalizing kingdom work collaboration. Victory's proposal to apply proven industry frameworks to spiritual and cultural transformation work demonstrates sophisticated understanding of how to protect and scale high-value relationships.

The framework being developed could serve as template for other kingdom workers seeking to build sustainable, professional, mutually beneficial partnerships that protect both heart investment and business interests while advancing transformational cultural work.

The emergence of international opportunities (Brazil) alongside domestic framework development (Tulsa ecosystem) positions this collaboration at the forefront of global kingdom advancement through professional excellence and strategic partnership.