Gary Sheng & Tim Joo - Post-Liberty Move-Out & Spiritual Reflection

Context

Morning-after conversation following NYE service at Encounter Church in Liberty, TX. Gary announces move-out plans and they process Tim's experience at the healing service.

Key Topics

Move-Out Logistics

• Gary's friend has an opening in Hyde Park; moving out in next few days
• Tim clarified he needs his own space - "I just don't think I can live with another man"
• Not about bad habits returning; Tim wants his habitat back
• Gary expressing deep gratitude for hospitality

Practical Arrangements

• Gary offering money for cleaning
• Ordered forks for Tim as parting gift
• Capital Factory card: Tim giving to Gary since he's closing/handing off the meetup, needs to focus on coding
• Lifetime Fitness: Gary paid for January, will decide on February

Processing the Prophetic Service

• Tim initially suspicious Gary shared personal info with Brenda/Delmar beforehand
• Gary clarified: Delmar operates through word of knowledge - "God tells him stuff"
• Things Delmar said that surprised Tim:
  • Financial issues / money taken from him
  • Questions about schizophrenia/mental health
  • Spending problems
• Tim felt electricity and warmth during prayer
• Gary: "It's real, bro"

Tim's Recovery & Mood Swings

• Tim's dopamine "fucking fried" from past drug use
• Mood swings and emotional control issues during recovery
• "You can't do that much damage... without having it have lingering effects"
• Tim apologized for pushing Gary away last couple weeks, staying in room

Gary's Spiritual Encouragement

• "It's a seed that has been planted. Humans help with planting, God does the watering"
• Called Tim a potential "warlord for the kingdom"
• "If you can be a warlord for Christ, you can be a warlord for Satan" - potential works both ways
• Emphasized spiritual warfare: negative spirits can inhabit people
• "You are such a warlord for the kingdom... that's why you've been attacked"
• Tim would be relatable evangelist unlike "Korean person sent to your hometown"
• "I think you'd be a good dad"

K-Shaped Trajectory Metaphor

• Gary's framework: "K shape in worldly standards, but also in alignment with God"
• At death, being on positive part of the K
• "No one can drag you to the top of the K... it's your heart posture toward God"

Alpha Schools Critique

• Joe didn't trust Tim enough to let him test in market
• "You can't start a tutoring business as a pilot for two months"
• Gary's theory: Joe doesn't trust his own product, so limits external exposure
• Discussed potential investigative journalism about Alpha/Timeback

Commitments

• Tim setting 7am alarm for gym tomorrow
• Both committed to locking in for 2026

Key Quotes

Tim on recovery:

"My dopamine is fucking fried. You know what I mean? You can't do that much damage, like artificially spike your dopamine that high without having it have lingering effects on my mood."

Tim on needing space:

"I just don't think I can live with another man... It's not like I'm saying that just to get you off so I can go back to bad habits. It's not the case at all."

Gary on the seed planted:

"It's a seed that has been planted. Humans are supposed to help with the planting of the seeds. God does the watering."

Gary on Tim's potential:

"You are such a warlord for the kingdom... I have a belief that if you can be a warlord for Christ, you can be a warlord for Satan. Potential doesn't work one way. It's like an absolute value thing."

Gary on truth:

"Tim Joo needs to decide what truth is. And if truth involves eternal consequences... it's on Tim now."

Tim accepting ownership:

"I have to do it myself... And it's also going to be why you'll have a successful business where you're the owner. Ownership mentality."

Themes

• Processing prophetic experience with healthy skepticism
• Addiction recovery as spiritual warfare
• Independence and ownership mentality
• Deep friendship despite different spiritual journeys
• Transition and new beginnings for 2026