Gary Sheng & Beef Jones - Spiritual Crisis and Kanye Deliverance Discussion

Context and Setting

Gary visited Beef Jones at his office, accompanied by Leslie, Beef's business partner in their agency "Best Served Cold." The meeting revealed a dramatic shift in Beef's spiritual and mental state from their previous interactions, showing someone in deep crisis.

Beef's Current Struggles

Mental and Spiritual Crisis

Beef opened up about his dark mental state, expressing how "fucked up" he feels about the state of the world. Most concerning, he admitted that "sometimes he wants to end it all," revealing suicidal ideation.

Gary's assessment: "He is very doomeristic. He has no hope for the future, and it's not that kind of faith."

Financial Pressures and Mercenary Mode

Beef explained his current work situation as purely survival-driven: "basically justified why he is working with rappers is how he needs to pay his bills and how he's struggling."

Gary observed: "Overall, Beef is not in a spiritual place where I can work with him on much that is not just hyper-materialistic. He's in a totally mercenary mode."

Substance Use Issues

Gary noted: "He struggles himself with a lot of marijuana." This substance use appears to be impacting Beef's spiritual receptivity and overall well-being.

Gary's Ministry Attempt

Sharing Spiritual Truth

Gary attempted to share spiritual encouragement: "I told him about, like, the miracles and healings and true Christianity, supernatural Christianity."

However, Beef's response was limited: "It's funny he just wasn't in a mental space to talk that much about it."

Recognition of Spiritual Misalignment

Gary made a difficult assessment: "He's not the kind of spirit that I need to be around. He was very negative."

Despite this, Gary maintains love: "I love him so much."

Kanye West Deliverance Agreement

Shared Vision for Kanye

One point of alignment emerged: "He agreed that Kanye needs to be delivered and baptized."

Gary sees this as potential future collaboration: "So, I think that's actually where the next step... I will likely work with him on Kanye West deliverance and some kind of collaboration there."

Divine Timing Required

Gary recognizes the need for patience: "but that'll happen in time."

He maintains openness while acknowledging uncertainty: "I don't feel like he... We'll see. I don't really know all the different ways we can work together."

Business Context

Best Served Cold Agency

Beef is currently running an agency with his partner Leslie, focused on working with rappers. This represents a shift from his previous visionary projects to pure survival mode.

Gary notes: "His whole thing is doing stuff with rappers."

Relationship Assessment

Current Boundaries

Gary recognizes the need for boundaries given Beef's current state, while maintaining love and hope for future collaboration when divine timing aligns.

Friendship Maintenance

Despite the spiritual misalignment, Gary expresses desire to maintain connection: "We need to stay grateful friends. Let's catch up a little bit."

Key Themes

1. Spiritual Crisis: Beef has moved from visionary collaborator to someone in deep spiritual and mental crisis
2. Survival Mode: Financial pressures have pushed Beef into purely mercenary/materialistic operations
3. Substance Struggles: Marijuana use is impacting Beef's spiritual and mental state
4. Ministry Resistance: Beef unable to receive spiritual encouragement in current state
5. Kanye Connection: Shared vision for Kanye West's deliverance remains as potential future collaboration point
6. Love with Boundaries: Gary maintains love while recognizing need for spiritual boundaries
7. Divine Timing: Recognition that collaboration must wait for proper spiritual alignment

Significance

This conversation marks a sobering shift in the Gary-Beef relationship. From August 2025's visionary discussions about global ministry and documentary projects, Beef has descended into crisis by October. While Gary maintains love and hope for future Kingdom collaboration (particularly around Kanye West), he wisely recognizes the current spiritual incompatibility. The meeting demonstrates Gary's pastoral heart - attempting ministry while maintaining necessary boundaries for his own spiritual protection.