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2025-11-23-gary-beef-jones-ai-crypto-ip-platform-vision
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Call Summary: AI-Crypto IP Platform Vision & Revolutionary Creator Economy

Overview

Extensive strategic conversation between Gary and Beef about creating a revolutionary platform combining AI, crypto, and intellectual property to democratize creator economics. Discussion evolved from Gary's business automation services to a comprehensive vision for "IP Fun" - a platform enabling micro-investments in derivative works from cultural IP, particularly focusing on underrepresented creators and communities.

Key Topics Discussed

Gary's Current Business Direction

  • Post-Vatican Return: Gary recently returned from family time in Vegas, reconnecting with uncle from China (10 years) and cousin (8 years), but found extended family time suffocating
  • Business Automation Focus: Gary pivoting to help businesses stay lean during economic uncertainty through AI automation tools
  • Evergreen Value Proposition: "Helping businesses is generally good" - positioning away from negative tech stereotypes (Zuckerberg references)

Beef's Current Ventures & Strategic Vision

  • Data Intelligence Ecosystem: Building comprehensive platform covering IP creation, CPG technology, streaming media - all funneling to data points
  • Celebrity Network Activation: Working with Jon (Kanye's business partner), French Montana, and other artists to create IP and data capture opportunities
  • Global Expansion Strategy: "Hip hop is going to be in Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, Mumbai in next five years - not the United States. That's the growth market."
  • Def Jam Cafe Licensing: Taking Def Jam IP international with pop-ups in Korea, Shanghai (Complex Con), Tokyo (Designer Con February 14th)

Revolutionary Platform Concept: "IP Fun"

  • Core Innovation: "It's pumped.fun except for real freaking IP" - creating micro-investment opportunities in derivative cultural works
  • Revenue Sharing Model: Proposed structure where 30% goes to creator, 20% to original IP owner (e.g., Kanye), 50% to micro-investors
  • Democratization Focus: "That kid in Gary, Indiana or what is the status quo right now? I love Kanye. I have a chance to be sued by Kanye if Kanye's in a bad mood."
  • Market Mechanics: Early investors get larger shares as market cap grows, creating viral promotion incentives

Cultural & Economic Justice Framework

  • Equity Pools for IP: "We're creating equity pools for IP" - addressing historical exploitation of Black and Brown creators
  • Permissionless Innovation: Moving from lawsuit risk to approved collaboration and revenue sharing
  • Youth Entrepreneurship: Enabling 12-year-olds to create legitimate businesses around cultural IP they love
  • Data Goldmine: Platform generates unprecedented data on creator trends, consumer preferences, and cultural movements

Strategic Business Insights

  • Capital Access Problems: "Everybody's out here needing capital. Nobody knows what the hell to talk about. And the guys that know all the information, they're putting it behind like a fucking cage."
  • AI Automation Necessity: "There's no reason why I should actually have to send an email. Everything could be generated on a schedule like boom. Complete automation."
  • Brand Partnership Opportunities: "Every CMO I was talking to... Everything that they do is based on data. And they don't know how to get it."

Kanye West Collaboration Opportunities

  • Mexico City Shows: January 30th-31st shows, Beef going January 29th
  • Strategic Partnership: "Me and Jon are now actually on paper as partners. And I do a lot of Kanye business by default."
  • AI Integration: "Jon was like, yo, this is great. He got Dr. Dre still hitting him, asking about AI shit."
  • Global Platform Potential: Kanye's permission as "the most rare thing" for platform legitimacy

Educational Innovation Vision

  • Alternative School Concept: "Why don't we create a school? That's just all about leveraging these new tools to help your local community and their businesses and also create new IP."
  • 65,000 Square Foot Space: Beef has educational space in New York available for utilization
  • Department of Education Defunding Opportunity: "It's good for guys like Joe, but I feel it's better for us... We could literally fork the alpha model"

Technology & Automation Philosophy

  • Total Ecosystem Vision: "No reason why it shouldn't be the greatest go to market company ever... that's what has to be done"
  • Lemonade Stand Example: Complete automation from inventory management to price matching to customer notifications
  • Dashboard Integration: "Access to all your unique sales data, behavior, customer profile... and then how to maximize and use that data"

Key Quotes

On Platform Vision

  • "This is uniting all the hype things, bro. It's literally uniting all the hype things. Generative AI crypto black genius culture. And white speculation."
  • "We're built. We're going to build a protocol. For rapid capitalism. But capitalism that young people that vote for Mamdani can get behind. Because it's fair."

On Cultural Economics

  • "Why should they be left out? And then I went to Patel and I sat with the head of us snowboarding. And soccer and Pepsi... you guys are fucking employees. You're not going to come up with the big idea?"
  • "The big idea is going to come from us. But you're the bottleneck. To the funds."

On AI and Automation

  • "If I'm selling lemonade. Do you understand how much lemonade I would be able to sell if I was able to cut out all that shit?"
  • "We grew up on Star wars, bro. I feel like we should already had this shit."

On Opportunity and Timing

  • "Department education being lack of funds, right, we could literally fork the alpha model and go to Gary, Indiana... and convince them to partner with us"
  • "Instead of wasting time and having too many people out here crying capital from a very small source"

Action Items / Takeaways

Immediate Next Steps

  • Beef to send Gary his latest deck/pitch materials
  • Explore Mexico City Kanye collaboration opportunity (January 29-31)
  • Consider joining Beef for Playboi Carti concert at Moody Theater as networking opportunity
  • Develop technical specifications for IP Fun platform concept

Strategic Developments

  • Platform Development: Create comprehensive technical and business plan for AI-crypto-IP platform
  • Celebrity Partnerships: Leverage Beef's network (Kanye, Jon, French Montana) for platform validation
  • Educational Initiative: Explore alternative school concept using Beef's 65,000 sq ft space
  • Data Intelligence: Build comprehensive youth data platform (11-17 demographic focus)

Long-term Vision

  • Global Expansion: Target Pacific Rim markets (Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, Mumbai) for cultural IP
  • Equity Democratization: Create fair revenue sharing for derivative cultural works
  • Educational Revolution: Alternative education focused on AI tools and community business development
  • Cultural Justice: Address historical exploitation through transparent, equitable IP collaboration

Strategic Context

This conversation represents a pivotal moment where Gary's business automation expertise intersects with Beef's cultural network and data intelligence vision. The "IP Fun" concept could revolutionize how cultural intellectual property generates value while ensuring fair compensation for both original creators and derivative innovators. The platform addresses multiple systemic issues: capital access inequality, cultural exploitation, youth entrepreneurship barriers, and the need for transparent, equitable creator economics.

The timing appears optimal with Trump's crypto deregulation, generative AI democratization, and growing awareness of cultural appropriation issues. Beef's celebrity network provides crucial validation and content, while Gary's technical vision and business automation expertise offers the execution capability needed to build this revolutionary platform.