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External Transcript Summary: Gary Sheng & Encounter Church Leadership Meeting
Date: September 25, 2025
Participants: Gary Sheng (@gary-sheng.md), Apostle Delmar Coward Jr. (@apostle-delmar-coward-jr.md), Brenda Gentry (@brenda-gentry.md), Elder Rich (Kansas), Elder T (Delaware), Elder Gail (Arizona), Elder Will (Lafayette, Louisiana), Elders from Tampa (Ashton and J'Cory), Pastor Sonia
Duration: Extended leadership meeting via video conference
Context: Gary's introduction to Encounter Church elder network and ministry leadership team, sharing testimonies and strategic ministry discussion
Executive Summary
This transcript captures Gary Sheng's formal introduction to the Encounter Church leadership network during a ministry conference call with elders from multiple states. The meeting features powerful healing testimonies, strategic discussion of upcoming ministry expansion to Denver, and Gary's first presentation to the broader leadership team about his calling and vision for global revival documentation. The conversation reveals the extensive network of Encounter Church elders across the United States and demonstrates the systematic approach to ministry expansion through "tributary" locations.
Key Themes
1. Gary's Introduction to Elder Network
Apostle's Introduction:
- Context Setting: "I want you to meet Gary. These are elders from Kansas from. This is T from Delaware. So this is. From Arizona. Down here on the bottom. That's brother. Pastor. And over here on the left... those are young people from Tampa that are also elders and have been ordained elders"
- Gary's Presentation: Invited to share his background and calling with the leadership team
- Network Scope: Elders representing Kansas, Delaware, Arizona, Louisiana, Tampa, and other locations
Gary's Self-Introduction:
- Mission Statement: "I think the people on this call will be helping spark a new revival that is badly needed that reflects the fullness of the faith"
- Background: Former Google software engineer, worked in atheistic tech and innovation circles
- Calling Recognition: "everyone's kind of missing the point. And there's no higher calling than to, you know, teach people the truth and help them experience... having a real encounter with the living God is an extreme high priority for people"
2. Powerful Healing Testimonies Shared
Hip Replacement Miracle Testimony:
- Initial Situation: Woman needed hip replacement surgery for daughter Lydia
- Prayer Request: Asked Apostle to pray for daughter's healing
- Surgical Outcome: Woman had surgery when initial miracle didn't appear to manifest
- Post-Surgery Miracle: "It's as easy for Him to turn bad bone into good bone or mild into bone or bad bone into good bone. It don't matter. God can still give you a miracle"
- Verification: Metal hip replacement turned to bone, discovered through airport security screening
Airport Security Revelation:
- First Trip: Security detected metal hip, woman showed medical card
- Return Trip: "She walked through the metal machine, and when she walked through the metal machine, it went off... when they wandered, they didn't find no metal in her hip. They found that she had, her bra had metal in it"
- Medical Confirmation: "So then she had it checked out. There was no metal. It was, you know, faithful God"
3. Beach Ministry Foundation Stories
Tony's Stroke Healing (Retold by Elder T):
- Initial Healing: "the public anointing just hit. And Tony, he dropped his cane, and he took a breath, and he just took off across the yard, just leaping and running and jumping"
- Personal Impact on T: "I'm looking at him, and I know what it was like 10 seconds prior to that... is this real life? Like, did that just happen?"
- Skepticism Overcome: "I was a little skeptical, because I've been in church all my life... you don't see signs and wonders and miracles"
T's Heart Healing in Truck:
- Hidden Condition: "I had been having some significant chest pains myself. I had been referred to cardiology back here in Delaware, and Rich didn't know about it, only nobody knew about it"
- Divine Revelation: "all of a sudden, he just stopped, just stopped talking, he goes, okay, Lord, I'll do it right now"
- Physical Experience: "as soon as he got into the first sentence, I just passed out. I could hear everything, so I wasn't unconscious, but I couldn't move"
- Complete Healing: "it wasn't until a couple of days later... I realized I had not had a single chest pain"
4. Beach Ministry Meth Addict Deliverance
Prophetic Revelation:
- Initial Encounter: Young man and girlfriend offered beer at beach
- Apostle's Response: "no, I don't want your beer. I said, but I wanna pray for you"
- Prophetic Word: "that guy, he's got a drug problem. He's addicted to meth, and when he gets back, God's gonna deliver him"
Deliverance Manifestation:
- Confirmation: "you're addicted to meth, and the guy goes, yeah, it's been three years"
- Visual Deliverance: "I saw that addiction spirit come off of this guy"
- T's Witness: "I looked right into his pupils... I knew immediately that that thing that was on him was gone, right there"
Additional Revelations:
- Girlfriend's Son: Woman initially denied having son, revealed dead baby: "I did have a son, but he died when he was a baby"
- Physical Healing: "that spotting you've been doing down there, you know, the bleeding? And she's trying to look at her boyfriend, like, okay, he just needs to just stop telling everything"
5. Seven Questions Miracle at Beach
Preparation:
- Elder Rich's Bible Study: "Rich had us in, let's call it somewhat of a Bible study, but we were really strict in the Word, and we were just seeking the Lord"
- Written Questions: "we had to do seven things we weren't quite clear on. And we said, we'll write them down"
Divine Answers:
- No Prior Knowledge: "he answered all of those questions. We never told him what they were, but he answered all seven of them without us telling him what we actually had questions about"
- Source Identified: Gary's Question: "And where did the answers come from, Apostle?" Apostle's Answer: "From God, from the Holy Spirit"
6. Ministry Statistics and Impact
Annual Conversion Numbers:
- Local Ministry: "we get anywhere from 4,000, 6,000 people born again in our ministry every year"
- Scale Clarification: "that happens all the time. And that happens even on the local stages. Not only, I'm not talking about a big platform"
- Jail Ministry Success: "We get a hundred percent getting born again in the jail sometime"
Healing Ministry Examples:
- Blind Man: "I saw Pete today... the one that came to encounter and he was blind and he had to be led by the hand. I saw him riding his bicycle down the road today"
- Autism Healings: "they brought the kid that the autism is gone... his nephew had autism. Grandson, nephew, grandson, all these kids, folks. Grandson had autism and completely gone"
- Heart Healing: "the man with the heart that needed a new heart... He was in a hospice. They took him out of hospice, brought him across the desert from California to Arizona... and God healed him"
7. Arizona Ministry Testimonies (Elder Gail)
Wheelchair Healing:
- First Visit: "the lady in the wheelchair, who'd been in that, or the very first time you came, was in that terrible accident. And they wheeled her up in front... you told her to stand up and she did"
- Witness Impact: "there wasn't a dry eye. Everybody's crying"
- Lasting Result: "She wasn't in the wheelchair when she left... She's been back many times"
New Heart Miracle:
- Terminal Diagnosis: "the doctor had told him that he had heart trouble, that there was nothing more they could do for him... maybe a month or two left"
- Healing Declaration: "so did God heal my heart? And Apostle Lee said, no, he gave you a new heart"
- Medical Verification: "the doctor came back in with the results and he said, you have a heart of a very young man"
8. Spiritual Warfare and Demonic Deliverance
Jail Deliverance Experience:
- Possessed Inmate: "140 pounds. But he was possessed with the devil... five or six officers trying to handle him"
- Physical Manifestation: "he's kicking the door. Boom, boom. And the screws are coming out of the door"
- Authority Demonstration: "I jumped in and I said one word, hey. When I lose that word, hey, it means breath of God. That guy flew up against the wall, over the bunk bed about six inches, stuck to the wall"
Witch Encounters:
- Prison Witch: "God said to me, this is a witch... I said, so you are a witch? And then God spoke a word to me and this words were hellhounds"
- Tattoo Confirmation: "She had tattoos and the tattoos were dogs and hellhounds written across the tattoos"
- Authority Establishment: "I said, I'm going to have you for lunch... she got one again"
9. Vision and Prophetic Experiences
Africa Kingdom Travel:
- First Spirit Journey: "the first time I did kingdom travel, I was in a soaking service... I ended up in Africa"
- Witch Doctor Encounter: "I saw this man doing enchantations... I used one finger and I touched him between his eyes with that one finger. And when I did, he disappeared"
- Missionary Release: "the missionary saw me in his eyes... Then I reached down untied the missionary, the hands and the feet"
- China Vision: "And then I ended up in China. I was like, I left there and I went to China"
Multitude Vision:
- Scope: "Multitudes of people that, as far as we can see, straight ahead to the left and to the right. That's the vision, that's what God gave me"
- Future Events: "there'll be multiple events that is gonna be that size or greater and greater"
- Power Manifestation: "the power of God is gonna come. And it's gonna be like a light that's gonna go to the audience and it's gonna drop out Durham"
10. Denver Ministry Expansion
Prophetic Direction:
- Divine Commission: "the same night that God mentioned Gentry's name, he also mentioned Denver. He gave me two names. That was you all in Denver"
- Travel Plans: "Elder Rich and team, we're gonna fly to Colorado... we're going to explore Denver"
- Strategic Purpose: "we're using steps of faith to get, position ourselves in the presence of God, so that we can see what God wants us to do in Denver"
Spiritual Landscape:
- Challenge Recognition: "Why you gay? Why you trans?... Oh, they're all gay. There's like a million gay people in Denver"
- Ministry Approach: Understanding need for deliverance ministry in Denver area
11. Gary's Vision for Global Impact
Revival Documentation:
- Global Scope: "we're gonna, you know, a lot will be involved to awaken billions of people in the coming years and decades to what the truth is"
- Tools Available: "we have the tools more than ever, social media, you know, I'm sure books, events, experiences"
- World Readiness: "the world is waiting"
Generational Calling:
- Family Heritage: "my great-grandfather was a priest. About a hundred years ago, was spreading the good news in China, was a pastor in China. And so I think it is in my blood"
- Personal Healing Testimony: "Apostle also improved my eyesight after praying for me at a city park party... I haven't needed them either since the prayers"
12. House Church Network Vision
Gary's Strategic Insight:
- Problem Identification: "I think it's very difficult for people to find a church that will give them what they need"
- Solution Proposed: "it's time for us to just know that we will create a house church network where your teaching is beaming into so many house churches around the world"
- Continuity Concern: "we do not want people that experience the fullness of the faith going to a church that is just local, and just nothing like what they started their faith off with and faltering"
13. Spiritual Crisis and Societal Impact
National Health Crisis Analysis:
- Statistics: "there's 25 million young people around 20 and under, 25 million that have some kind of disability or disease in America"
- Autism Epidemic: "There's two and a half million people with autism... autism has 10 X in recent years"
- Root Cause: "because people don't acknowledge the spiritual roots of these sicknesses"
Spiritual Warfare Understanding:
- Government Policy Impact: "when you make it way easier to get drugs, you better understand that there are spiritual consequences to this. And it's not just a medical consideration"
- Educational Crisis: "The way we do organize our society, the way we teach our kids, they must understand spiritual truths. Otherwise, they will live their entire lives in deep confusion and regret"
14. Laws of Fire Principles
Primary Law:
- Gary's Question: "So the most important law of fire is really just obey God all the time. Just always"
- Apostle's Confirmation: "Hear what he say and do what he say. Jesus said, I never, Jesus said, I'll always do what I see my father do... And I'll only say what I hear my father say"
Operational Principle:
- Divine Guidance: "I don't go anywhere unless God said to go... Next death row, why did I go to death row? God said to go"
- Universal Application: "if God told me to go to a witch's convention, I was like, okay... Let's roll, let's roll"
Significant Quotes
On Revival and Truth
Gary: "I think the people on this call will be helping spark a new revival that is badly needed that reflects the fullness of the faith"
Gary: "Apostle Delmar is the first person where I've, you know, as someone that literally gets invited to like Vatican City pretty regularly with very high positions in different Christian religions, you know, this feels like the truest thing"
On Healing and Miracles
Apostle: "It's as easy for Him to turn bad bone into good bone or mild into bone or bad bone into good bone. It don't matter. God can still give you a miracle"
T: "I looked right into his pupils... I knew immediately that that thing that was on him was gone, right there"
On Spiritual Authority
Apostle: "I jumped in and I said one word, hey. When I lose that word, hey, it means breath of God. That guy flew up against the wall, over the bunk bed about six inches, stuck to the wall"
Apostle: "witches can be converted when there's an authority greater than what they've experienced"
On Ministry Statistics
Apostle: "we get anywhere from 4,000, 6,000 people born again in our ministry every year"
Apostle: "We get a hundred percent getting born again in the jail sometime"
On Vision and Calling
Apostle: "Multitudes of people that, as far as we can see, straight ahead to the left and to the right. That's the vision, that's what God gave me"
Gary: "we're gonna, you know, a lot will be involved to awaken billions of people in the coming years and decades to what the truth is"
On Spiritual Warfare
Apostle: "When God goes out of your life, the spirit of darkness comes into your life. And that's what people are not hearing"
Apostle: "Drugs, I call it sometimes a date rape drug... you get very high on drugs. Well, that's the thing. Now your willpower goes low. Now the devil can possess you"
Network Structure and Leadership
Elder Network Locations
- Kansas: Elder Rich (medical doctor, ministry initiator)
- Delaware: Elder T (formerly skeptical, now powerful witness)
- Arizona: Elder Gail (hosts house church, multiple healing testimonies)
- Louisiana: Elder Will (Lafayette area)
- Tampa: Young elders Ashton and J'Cory (next generation leaders)
- Texas: Pastor Sonia (Apostle's ministry partner)
Ministry Expansion Strategy
- Tributary Model: Each elder location serves as "tributary" bringing kingdom power to their region
- Systematic Growth: Elders ordained and trained for replication of ministry model
- Strategic Positioning: New locations added based on prophetic direction and invitation
Future Implications
Immediate Developments
- Denver Expansion: Apostle and team traveling to explore Denver ministry opportunities
- Gary's Integration: Formal introduction to elder network for global documentation project
- Website Development: Gary building digital platform for ministry expansion
Long-term Vision
- House Church Network: Global network of locations receiving Apostle's teaching
- Documentation Project: Comprehensive recording of healing testimonies and ministry methods
- Government Influence: Strategic engagement with policy makers on spiritual aspects of social issues
Revival Strategy
- Truth vs. Religion: Distinguishing authentic kingdom power from powerless religious forms
- Global Awakening: Systematic approach to reaching billions through documented proof of supernatural power
- Generational Impact: Addressing spiritual roots of societal health and educational crises
Leadership Dynamics
Apostle's Authority
- Complete spiritual authority demonstrated through consistent miraculous results
- Strategic vision for global expansion based on prophetic direction
- Father-figure relationship with elders providing guidance and covering
Elder Network Function
- Established leaders in multiple states providing regional ministry hubs
- Testimony sharing for mutual encouragement and faith building
- Strategic prayer support for ministry expansion initiatives
Gary's Integration
- Recognized as called to document and amplify ministry for global reach
- Brings technology and strategic thinking to traditional ministry model
- Positioned as bridge between kingdom power and secular intellectual circles
Conclusion
This transcript reveals the sophisticated structure and powerful results of the Encounter Church elder network, with Gary Sheng being formally introduced as the documentation and amplification partner for global ministry expansion. The testimonies shared demonstrate consistent supernatural results across multiple states, validating the tributary ministry model and establishing foundation for international expansion. Gary's vision for house church networks and systematic documentation aligns perfectly with Apostle Delmar's proven ministry model, creating potential for unprecedented global revival impact through the combination of authentic supernatural power and modern communication technology.