Call Summary: Spiritual Heritage, Generational Healers, and Kingdom Work

Overview

Gary visited Ida at her Aunt Elva's house where Elva was doing Ida's hair and makeup for Nori's wedding. The conversation covered Ida's childhood medical conditions and miraculous healings, four generations of healers in her family lineage, dramatic testimonies of prayer deliverance, the Karen crisis (possible demonic possession), and strategy for offering free microschool support to churches.

Key Topics Discussed

Ida's Childhood Medical History and Miraculous Healings

Birth Condition - Inverted Legs:

• Born with legs inverted from birth canal
• "They had to break her legs so she could walk" (Elva)
• Wore steel brace between legs with leather booties at 90-degree angles for first two years
• Extended family opposed intervention but Uncle Ray (orthopedic surgeon) advised: "She cannot spend the rest of her life with the quality of life of walking like a crooked, like an invalid"
• Without correction would have had severe physical disability

Lichens Sclerosis Atrophus:

• Discovered due to translucent skin in vaginal area
• Traumatic childhood experience of biopsies with multiple male doctors while fully conscious
• "I definitely remember not being put under"

Lupus-Like Disease (Birth to Age 11-12):

• Disease typically only found in women over 40
• Doctors told mother not to tell Ida she was sick
• Symptoms: stomach aches, hair loss, constant doctor appointments
• Grandmother Mary and mother prayed constantly
• "I did not know I was sick. I thought it was normal"
• Healed when puberty began: "Scientifically, they were like, we don't know what happened, but it's gone"
• Doctor predicted it would return in her 20s
• Mother's declaration: "No, God is the keeper of his word. He said it. He sealed it. It's done."

Three-Year Mystery Illness (Recent):

• Began immediately after praying at Uvalde massacre site
• "I woke up in excruciating pain. Like, and I, and immediately I thought, this is an attack"
• Throughout: "I continue to witness to people... I'm not at home, laying down. Even an aunt of mine... was never able to work again and she was only in her thirties. And I said, well, that's not going to be me"
• Encountered death-speakers who told her she would die: "I rebuke that in the name of Jesus"
• Healed at revival

Four Generations of Healers

Great-Great-Grandfather:

• One of the first Methodist preachers in the United States
• Traveled pueblo to pueblo ministering on horseback
• Killed by arrow (possibly mistaken identity due to pale skin/blue eyes)
• Family stayed faithful despite tragedy

Great-Grandmother Chinda (Wendita Chinda):

• Healer who performed spiritual cleansings
• "She would sweep them" using leaves and giant plants while praying to cleanse dark spirits
• Lived across the street from Elva
• Everybody came to visit her; never got sick
• Lived to 101-103 years old
• "Doctor said she never got sick because she ate a lot of hot sauce, a lot of chili"

Grandmother Mary:

• "Very spiritual person, not a religious person"
• People came from all over town for help, advice, guidance, prayer, healing
• Would go into Holy Spirit anointing/trance and speak in Castilian Spanish (which she did not know)
• "She knew that the Holy Spirit had filled her... but she did not know what had been said"
• Recognized by Father Diorio (healing priest): "You know who you are, you just walked in the room, I need you to come up here and help me"
• When Ida would pray at church, grandmother would "immediately go into her Holy Spirit anointing"

Ida's Calling:

• At age 10, grandmother asked what she wanted to be: "Whatever God wants"
• Grandmother immediately went into her anointing
• Ida has had supernatural experiences since childhood: "Seeing things, knowing things without people telling me"
• "There was a zap, an energy" between her and grandmother
• Mother took family to church, youth group, Christian camps; served as church leader
• "Nobody taught me to be out loud and be bold. This was just part of my personality"

Dramatic Prayer Testimonies

Elva's Daughter Giselle (2009):

• Bad relationship with a boy treating her wrong
• Elva asked Ida to pray over her
• Ida said: "Give it two weeks"
• "In two weeks, she stopped talking to him. Cold turkey."
• Daughter's response: "I don't know. I just don't have any interest in him"

Bethany and Homosexual Manager:

• Bethany came to Ida about female manager hitting on her
• Bethany liked attention but knew it wasn't right
• Ida said she'd pray; Bethany said "No, because your prayers work"
• After prayer, manager stopped within a day or two
• Bethany was "mad at me" for months because attention stopped

Elva's Spiritual Encounters:

• When mother passed away, Elva was asleep praying
• "This thing in black came to visit me... moving right over me"
• Husband tried to wake her: "What are you talking to?"
• She chased it away with prayer
• Also saw someone "give me a snake coming in my house" - Ida came to bless it, never happened again

Karen Crisis - Possible Demonic Possession

Background:

• Ida's mentee since age 16 (25 years)
• First psychotic break while marketing director at major oil/gas company at 21
• Body went catatonic: couldn't walk, talk, or eat for months
• Doctors sent her home saying she would probably die
• Diagnosis: "Conversion disorder"

Recovery Through Scripture:

• Mother put Bible in front of her
• "For months, she could only read scripture, nothing else"
• Started talking again, then walking
• Was suicidal; bird flew in her face persistently, "snapped her out" of suicide contemplation
• Surrendered life to God

Current Situation:

• Multiple hospitalizations for psychotic breaks
• Met abusive husband at Haven for Hope while at "lowest of the low"
• Ida believes she needs deliverance, not just mental health treatment
• "I don't believe she's oppressed. I feel like it's something else because it is deep"

Strange Text Message (Today):

• From Karen's phone: "Remove our contact from your phone"
• Ida's response: "Oh, devil. You devil. I'm not removing anything from my phone"
• Notes "our" is unusual: "Who's our? You and Satan?"
• "Karen would never talk to me like that"
• Day before Ida planned to invite Karen to meet Gary and discuss church support

Jesus Villavicencio's Transformation and Generosity

Business Success:

• Named company "Jairus" meaning "God enlightens" in Hebrew
• "From the beginning he gave the company to God"
• Went from subcontractor making $5,000/house to main contractor bidding $40,000+ for electrical
• "That's what we prayed for"
• Custom houses $5M and up
• Daily devotional with notes in his work book

Generosity Pattern:

• Currently helping at least three families
• Buying Ashley (student mentee since elementary) cap and gown she couldn't afford
• Previously bought two students computers for scholarship applications
• "Why did you even wait to ask me? Just get her the cap and gown"
• "Whatever we do, we do it unto the Lord"

Supporting Foster Youth:

• Ida's nonprofit dream: help foster kids who age out
• Jesus fully supportive

Microschool Nonprofit Strategy

Free Services to Churches:

• Gary proposed offering free information to churches about creating microschools
• Ida had same revelation that morning: "We can start without money, we can start where we are right now"
• Believes work will come: "God will do the rest"
• Karen has network of churches (before current crisis)

Governor Connection:

• Dan Patrick follow-up: "We told the governor, we know what to do to help Christian schools"
• Expected response around January 12th
• Voucher program: $10,000 per child starting August
• Gary working on helping churches create microschools for 20 kids

Philosophy: The Battle in the Mind

Man vs. Himself:

• "90% what's going on in your brain and 10% what actually happens"
• "The enemy wins, the enemy beats people in their mind"
• "Man versus himself can leave you 20 years or 30 or 40 or whatever, going in the wrong direction because you have low self-esteem"

Morning Declaration:

• Potential YouTube channel name: "I'm So Glad I'm Alive"
• "That's what I say to myself. Right when I open my eyes, I say, I'm so glad I'm alive"
• "Then I get to experience life, even the pain, even the sorrow, even the failure"

Other Notable Items

Nori's Wedding:

• Getting married today (the cancer survivor previously healed through prayer group)
• Ida getting hair/makeup done at Elva's for the wedding

Book Recommendation:

• Elva recommended "One Minute with God for Men"
• Story of addicted son completely transformed by reading it daily
• Ida plans to get for Carlos and Jesus

On Fire for Christ:

• Gary asked if Ida knows anyone more on fire for Christ than herself
• Ida: "No"
• "If I get more on fire for Christ, Gary, I'm gonna turn into the burning bush"
• "What you see is what you get"

Healing Prayer Team History:

• Prayer group of 10 women meeting 2+ years
• Miracles witnessed: infertility healed, breast cancer healed, Nori's terminal cancer healed
• Friend Jasper's husband received rare heart and lung transplant simultaneously, moved to top of list

Key Quotes

• "I'm so glad I'm alive. That's what I say to myself. Right when I open my eyes."

• "If you're not a threat, nothing's going to happen in your life. If you're a threat to him, you're going to be attacked, period."

• "If I get more on fire for Christ, Gary, I'm gonna turn into the burning bush."

• On Karen's text: "Oh, devil. You devil. I'm not removing anything from my phone."

• "We can do our nonprofit, we can start without money, we can start where we are right now... God will do the rest."

• "90% what's going on in your brain and 10% what actually happens. The enemy wins, the enemy beats people in their mind."

• Mother on healing: "No, God is the keeper of his word. He said it. He sealed it. It's done."

• "My grandmother was always a spiritual person, not a religious person."

Action Items / Takeaways

• Ida to follow up with Karen when she's stable - believes she needs deliverance, not just mental health treatment
• Gary to follow up with Dan Patrick's office around January 12th
• Continue developing nonprofit to offer free microschool support to churches
• Ida to get "One Minute with God for Men" book for Carlos and Jesus
• Gary will interview Jesus Villavicencio for his perspective on Ida and their marriage transformation
• Gary to potentially interview Alfonso (Ida's father) about Ida's life