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Strategic Planning, Job Search Support, and Deep Theological Wrestling on Divine Authority

Context

Late evening conversation with Tim calling from Bordeaux, France after a socially active day. Tim continues his "command center" role helping Gary with job search priorities while they engage in profound theological discussion about divine authority, fairness, and the clash between secular and religious worldviews.

Tim's Day and Social Life in Bordeaux

Failed Wine Château Visit

  • Russian Owners Flake: "These Russian guys who apparently own Chateau. It's like a wine castle... They invited us for a couple of days to just hang out... taste wine... They flaked last minute... when we were pretty much basically on the train already"
  • Making the Best: Used already-purchased train tickets to go halfway, spent time in "majestic forest" taking photos on the only sunny day between rainy weeks
  • Birthday Celebrations: Attended two birthday parties - a friend with few attendees and a Pakistani friend's celebration with Ukrainian guests

Job Search Strategy and Priorities

Gary's Action Items

  • FedEx Task: Ship materials from Vegas house tomorrow
  • Cover Letters: Write at least 3 cover letters for different companies
  • Prioritization Call: Schedule morning call with Tim to review and prioritize opportunities
  • Main Focus: "Number one thing is just to have money" - prioritizing stable income over equity plays

Whisper Flow Interest

  • Gary: "I do really like Whisper Flow. I think it's a very useful product... I don't have to think about it. I'm definitely passionate about that product. It's so simple."
  • Context provided by observing Hien's failed demo and slow typing: "It just kind of felt like such a thing of the past to be typing many sentences in a row"

Truth Management Business Development

Market Opportunity Recognition

  • Gary: "There's definitely potential with Truth Management stuff"
  • Shane Copeland follow-up planned for Monday/Tuesday
  • Positioning as solution to organizational truth maintenance

Travis Oliphant and Sovereign AI Strategy

Strategic Intelligence Gathering

  • Wednesday Recording: Part 2 of recorded conversation with Travis Oliphant
  • Sovereign AI Focus: "I'm going to ask a lot of questions about sovereign AI. Because that's Travis's whole angle for how he's selling to governments"

Mark Connection and Mormon Church Opportunity

  • Gary: "Guess who else is doing sovereign AI... Mark... And guess who's writing the Pope's sovereign AI blueprint... Lael"
  • Article Strategy: "I'm going to publish an article co-authored by Gary Sheng and Travis Oliphant on sovereign AI"
  • Mormon Church Vision: "Mark wanted to consult for the Mormon Church last year. So we could build a Mormon sovereign AI together, all three of us"
  • Gary's reflection: "I don't think it's an accident that these people fucking love me. And they're all so nice"

Divine Orchestration and Business Realm Calling

Hobby Lobby Inspiration

  • Story of Christian billionaire who won case against Obama administration
  • Nigerian taxi driver's prophecy about winning the case
  • Gary's physical reaction: "I got my whole body as a chill... I'm trusting more and more that God wants me to be in the business realm"

Wealth and Ministry Vision

  • Gary: "You're not going to get this money from asking middle class people to tithe. You want to be the one tithing"
  • Recognition of business success as pathway to Kingdom funding: "Hobby Lobby guy has dedicated billions towards Christian initiatives over the past 25 years"

Deep Theological Discussion

Democracy and Christian Foundations

  • Gary's framework: "The West is a Christian society. Democracy is an app on top of the Christian operating system"
  • Key insight: "Democracy works when everyone's basically on the same page already"
  • Tim's agreement: "All the equity and inclusion... This is either some form of or a perversion of Christian values"

Secularism as Vulnerability

  • Gary: "What happens when you embrace secularism in a religious world? You get destroyed by religious people"
  • Tim on Muslim expansion: "They were vocal and annoying. Just like queers... at first it was like, oh, okay, let's just listen to them and let them shut up. But then they grew louder"
  • Analysis of Britain's situation: "What's happening in Britain is the natural result of secularism in a religious world"

Islam and Spiritual Warfare Analysis

  • Discussion of Muslims potentially promoting secularism strategically
  • Tim: "The seculars are enabling Muslims to do whatever the fuck they want. They're doing the stupidest shit, like Queers for Palestine"
  • Recognition of spiritual orchestration: "It is orchestrated by the evil powers. Evil spiritual powers. Who else, right? How else can somebody be so ignorant?"

Israel/Palestine Through Biblical Lens

Jordan Peterson Critique

  • Gary: "It's very hard to defend Israel on non-eschatological grounds. If you don't back it with theology"
  • Tim's insight: "The way he defends Israel makes more people turn away from Israel. And from him in the process"
  • Challenge of secular arguments: "What reason can you use for killing kids that is secular? There's just no good argument"

Wrestling with Divine Justice

  • Tim's struggle: "If it's really God telling this [Israel to destroy tribes], what can I say as a follower of God?"
  • Gary on chosen people: "Jews remain chosen people despite rejecting Christ, experiencing divine curse through persecution"
  • Warning about replacement theology: "What that would imply is that God is disloyal to his people... Which would mean he would be disloyal to us too"

Divine Fairness vs Human Concepts

  • Tim's profound reflection: "God may not be fair based on the delusion of fairness that humans have created over time"
  • Core question: "What the fuck do I as Tim as a human, mere human, have to say against God who invented everything including the ideal fairness?"
  • Recognition of difficulty: "It's hard to be obedient that way. It's almost non-instinctual"

Authority and Worldview Foundations

The Authority Problem

  • Gary: "You have no grounds of saying what morality is, what good is, what love is, if you don't have an authority"
  • Challenge of self-authority: "For some people, that authority is themselves... Whatever I think love is, is love"
  • Tim on humanism: "We really want to have that authority in ourselves... linking it back to the original sin"

Practical Decision-Making

  • Gary's question: "How do you make decisions in extreme complexity?"
  • Tim's self-awareness: "It's really hard for me to uphold this conversation without being attached to trying to be the center"
  • Connection to Eden: "This is where the story makes so much sense"

Relationship Dynamics

Ian Strategy

  • Gary maintaining relationship despite Ian's dysfunction
  • Focus on eventual Kingdom funding: "I know that you're not a Christian, but you're going to fund my Christian mission"

Hien's Failed Demo

  • Technical difficulties with environment setup
  • Gary's observation about outdated typing methods
  • Commitment to help once Hien has funding

Brother's Insurance Protocol

  • Gary struggling to understand brother's DeFi insurance concept
  • Planning follow-up questions about necessity and implementation

Action Plans and Next Steps

Immediate Priorities (October 28)

  1. FedEx Vegas materials
  2. Write 3+ cover letters
  3. Morning prioritization call with Tim
  4. Add more companies to job search list (target 30+)

Strategic Conversations

  • Wednesday: Travis Oliphant Part 2 recording on sovereign AI
  • Early week: Deep fake opportunity discussion
  • November 8: Intelligent conversations with Mark about sovereign AI

Content Strategy

  • Publish Gary Sheng + Travis Oliphant article on sovereign AI
  • Position expertise before Mark meeting
  • Build credibility in sovereign AI space

Key Quotes

On Divine Orchestration

  • Gary: "What I'm doing, Tim, is just being grateful for the pieces that God is putting in front of me... I didn't tell Travis to be involved in sovereign AI... I had nothing to do with Mark getting into sovereign AI"

On Truth and Authority

  • Tim: "Why do we think that what is fair is fair, and not what God, who invented fairness, says is fair?"

On Business Calling

  • Gary: "You want to be the one tithing. That's like the realization... I have my biases of what I think should be funded. I think that's just God designed in me"

On Modern Christianity Challenge

  • Gary: "It's difficult to commit to Christianity for young people. Because it feels like it's giving a middle finger to a lot of their friends"

Theological Insights

Secularism's Fatal Flaw

  • Recognition that secularism cannot defend against aggressive religious ideologies
  • Britain as case study of secular society being overtaken by religious authoritarians
  • Democracy requiring shared Christian foundation to function

Divine Favoritism Wrestling

  • Honest struggle with God potentially favoring certain groups
  • Recognition that human fairness concepts may not align with divine justice
  • Submission to divine authority as non-instinctual but necessary

Original Sin Relevance

  • Desire for self-authority traced back to Eden
  • Humanism as modern manifestation of original rebellion
  • Difficulty of surrendering center position to God

Conclusion

This conversation demonstrated the continued evolution of Gary and Tim's partnership, with Tim providing practical job search support while engaging in sophisticated theological dialogue. Their discussion reveals both wrestling with difficult biblical truths about divine authority and strategic planning for Gary's career transition. The integration of practical action items with deep spiritual reflection exemplifies their unique friendship that operates simultaneously as business partnership, accountability structure, and theological forum.