Gary Sheng and Apostle Delmar Coward Jr.: Nation of Fire Confirmation and Co-Authorship Agreement

Opening Context: Tim's Holy Spirit Baptism Discussion

The conversation begins with Gary wrapping up discussion about Tim Dort-Golts seeking baptism in the Holy Spirit from France:

Gary: "He's a democratic God. That He does not force you to come to Liberty, Texas or whatever to experience the fullness of the faith."

Gary on support structures: "The whole point is that the structures that you join up into are not control structures, but support structures."

Morning Prophetic Word: Thought Life Champion

The Pure Word from God

Apostle: "Gary, give the devil no place. Remain a thought life champion. That's what I heard. Then I said, Gary, I'm not going to add or take away from what I heard."

Divine timing confirmation: Gary called immediately as Apostle was texting him this word.

Apostle on interpretation: "I don't know where all God is talking about. That's what he's saying. But you know, in your spirit, you know what he's talking about. I don't need to add to that."

Nation of Fire Divine Confirmation

Apostle's Prior Revelation

Apostle: "God told me some time ago. And I told others. I was sitting down on the ottoman at my house. And God said to me this. You've just become a nation."

Biblical connection: "And then he reminded me of Ishmael and Isaac... Abraham and the head of a nation is the nation until it becomes a huge nation."

Gary's Unknowing Confirmation

Apostle: "You said a nation of fire. And I was like, God, he doesn't know that you told me that. So I'm glad that you don't know. And I'm glad. And I'm telling you, you don't know. But you're hearing things from God. And that, to me, is awesome."

Fire connection: "I never called it a nation of fire. But it can be none other than a nation of fire because I was baptized in the fire."

Book Co-Authorship Agreement

Full Partnership Confirmed

Apostle: "Co-author, absolutely. Your testimony is an amazing testimony."

Touring vision: "My thoughts right now, touring the nations about this book side by side, that's a plan. I'm excited about this."

Rush Hour Reference

Apostle: "To see a black man in this... Okay, Rush Hour. Oh my goodness, that's funny."

Gary: "It's God's hour. No, I'm just kidding."

Apostle: "That is funny. God has a sense of humor, right? Because people will be like, what is going on with this duo?"

Kingdom Economics

Apostle: "There's going to be lots of money that's going to go in all the places it needs to go... Not only are they coming back to the kingdom, but all the money is coming back to the kingdom."

Gary's response: "If it's royalty-wise, it's just, you know, 100% to apostle-slash-encounter. That's fine with me."

Authority and Spiritual Covering Framework

Biblical Models of Authority

Apostle: "That's the key to all things in the Bible. That's the key to everything that Jesus does... You got Elijah and Elisha. Then you got Jesus and the three that was always there with Jesus, or four... Then you got the 12. Then you got the 70. Then you got the 120. Everything starts from a head."

Anointing Flow

Apostle: "When it's underneath the head and doing what it's supposed to do, that anointing flows there. And you can't stop it. You can't stop that body."

Gary's Submission

Gary: "I trust your leadership and I want to be aligned with it... I humbly and eagerly submit to your leadership."

Gary on obedience: "Just like a man is the head of the household, the person that you are receiving covering and instruction from is your commanding officer, the general."

Special Forces Team Vision

Military Backgrounds Revealed

Apostle on T: "T was part of a special group. He was working for the military. And they would hunt down spies... Their mission was to hunt down, track down, and catch these spies that was in America."

T's capabilities: "T would fly a drone and take the whole city. He would take all the airspace."

Richard's service: "Richard was a doctor. He was in the military for, I mean, he just retired, really retired all the way."

Divine Assembly

Apostle: "God is putting this whole team together with special forces, special things. They were all trained in different areas to make this whole thing complete."

Apostle: "I was trained, we were trained. God is putting this whole team together... to make this whole thing complete, and that's exciting. Because it ain't just the head that goes, it's the whole body."

Heart vs. Head Teaching

Road Rage Testimony

Apostle: "This guy's asking me to roll down my window... he cursed me out... told me he was going to hook me... And in my head I said, get out the car, man. You want an invitation to a party?... But what came out of my mouth was bless you."

Heart transformation: "Because bless you was in my heart... Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks."

Application to Holy Ghost Baptism

Apostle: "We got to get to the place that the word is so written upon our heart. When those tough times come, it comes out of our heart, not our head."

Personal testimony: Shared receiving tongues spontaneously at concert halftime: "I started to pray and I started speaking in tongues. And I opened my eyes and looked at my mouth and I prayed in tongues."

Tests and Trials Theology

God Doesn't Create Traps

Apostle: "God didn't want them to go in the fire furnace, but he knew they were going to go in. Right? He knew it, but he didn't put them through it. He didn't set that up so they can go through the fire furnace. The devil did."

God's response: "God went in there with him and got them out. And then they were promoted."

Daniel's Lion Den

Apostle: "God didn't set that trap with Daniel when he was thrown in the lion's den. The devil did that too. God's part was he pulled them up out of there."

Purpose of Covering

Apostle: "He don't give you a covering for no reason. He gives you a covering for the very reason... You should always lean on and depend on and believe in that covering. And then optimize it. Use it."

Call for help: "Man, I feel like I made a mistake or whatever. Call for help. Lean on this covering because God is faithful."

Parents Ministry Strategy

Gary's Upcoming Visit

Gary: "I'm about to see my parents in Las Vegas, visit them for about a week. And they're atheists for now."

Gary's intuition: "I realize it's a lot more about my spirit than my words with my parents at this current stage."

Apostle's Confirmation

Apostle: "Intuition, that's God. So that's the Holy Ghost... You have a covering around you, a surrounding around you. He's crowned you with loving kindness and tender mercy."

Ministry approach: "So when you're in their presence, he's going to be in their presence. And they're going to experience something that they never experienced. So you might not have to say much. Just be you."

Language Strategy and Word Corruption

Religion vs. Satan

Apostle: "Saying it's run by Satan bring offense to a bunch of people that you won't be able to minister to because their hearts are hard now. But saying that it's run by religion and they would have to agree with you because it's a religion."

Gary on Surgical Precision

Gary: "It's kind of like when you are being called all over the world, all over the country to fix electrical systems. It's like you got to find the exact piece that is broken."

Gary on corrupted language: "The word pride has been taken over by the gays. The word love has been taken over by everyone and it means nothing anymore."

Ministry Vision Confirmations

Multiple Prophetic Words

Gary: "Four people yesterday were like, I see pastor, I see pastor, I see pastor with gifts, I see you having a big church with a lot of young people."

Nation Rising Vision

Gary: "I want to see that nation burn in the most positive way. I want to see a nation rise. And however I can help with whatever labels, but also transcending those labels, I know that's what God wants me to do."

Future Plans

Vatican City Visit

Gary: "I decided to go to the Vatican, right, Vatican City. I'm more convinced than ever that it's basically a synagogue of Satan. But I think that God has put me in these circles for a reason. Not to be held captive by them, but to be part of a plan."

November Return

Gary: "Earliest I'll probably be back, and I'll probably just get like an Airbnb for like a month in Dayton, or just as close as possible to Liberty as I can, starting like November 9th."

Powerful Prayer Over Gary and Parents

Apostle's Declaration

Apostle: "Father, thank you for Gary... He's in perfect timing with the Holy Spirit. So all of these things, you've put together this wonderful plan to be a blessing to the entire world."

Parents salvation: "With his parents, we call them born again from the Holy Ghost and fire. We call them born again. I thank you that they see something that rocked their world. They'll feel the presence of God upon Gary."

Protection: "You'll go there safely. And he'll come back safely. And you'll keep him and protect him, Psalms 91, under the shadow of the almighty."

Key Theological and Strategic Insights

1. Pure Prophetic Transmission: Apostle's discipline in not adding to or interpreting God's words
2. Divine Confirmation: The "nation of fire" phrase confirming God's prior word to Apostle
3. Authority Structure: Clear biblical framework for spiritual covering and submission
4. Special Forces Assembly: Recognition of unique training each team member brings
5. Heart vs. Head: The importance of word being written on heart, not just known in mind
6. God's Role in Trials: God doesn't create traps but rescues and promotes through them
7. Strategic Language: Using wisdom in word choice to reach hearts without offense

Closing Affirmations

Apostle: "You are connected. There are no issues. We're going to touch the world. We're going to do it together. And God's going to use you in a mighty way. I am so certain of that."

Gary: "I trust you. I trust God. And I know that this is—I've been thinking a lot about God's cycle of tests and rewards."

The conversation ends with mutual love and affirmation, solidifying the partnership between Gary and Apostle for global ministry impact through the book project and beyond.