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ID:
2025-12-29-gary-ida-microschool-triage-modelParticipants:
date:
2025-12-29
related people:
["gary-sheng","ida-villavicencio"]
location:
Phone Call
Call Summary: Microschool Support Model & Counseling Triage Vision
Overview
Gary and Ida discussed the $100 Facebook ad experiment to validate demand for Christian microschools using TEFA funding, then developed a comprehensive vision for Ida serving as a regional counselor/triage specialist across multiple microschools. The conversation covered Medicaid billing challenges, 504 accommodations, dual credit pathways, and the failures of public school systems.
Key Topics Discussed
Facebook Ad Demand Validation
- Gary's experiment: Running $100 in Facebook ads with hook "Texas is giving families up to $30k for education. Do you qualify?" to see if parents fill out survey
- Purpose: Generate data for funders to prove enthusiasm exists
- Ida's reaction: "You have, like, millions of people respond... do you have the bandwidth?"
- Gary's philosophy: "Be my own role model in doing things I've never done before... going to ask AI to guide you through stuff now"
Ida's Counselor Triage Model
- Core insight: School counselors typically have 500-900 students each - "really horrible, but that's how it is"
- Proposed solution: Ida serves as triage counselor for an entire region of microschools
- How it works: Teachers/guides text with student issues, Ida determines appropriate support path
- Value proposition: "Microschools won't have counselors, and they won't have access to counselors for free. So I'm part of the package."
- Gary's response: "You're really unique cookie here... You've seen it all, right?"
Medicaid Billing Research
- Ida researched offering Medicaid services to special ed students (big portion are low income on Medicaid)
- Barrier discovered: Must be in practice 3 years before Medicaid allows billing
- Supervisors warned Medicaid often doesn't reimburse even after paperwork
- Private insurance also limited for low-income families
- Ida's experience: "9 out of 10 times I'm sending families to free clinics and free resources"
504 Accommodations Expertise
- Ida's background: 504 coordinator for 15 years
- 504 explained: Students who don't quite qualify for special ed but need accommodations
- Common needs: Physical issues, anxiety, health conditions, family trauma
- Examples: Bathroom breaks for bladder issues, calm corners for anxiety, nap time for medication effects, code words for breaks
- Key quote: "If you don't know and some teachers don't know all the jargon either... I could help the guide or the pastor sorted out"
Business Model: Church Support Services
- Gary's proposal: Motivate churches to launch microschools, charge yearly fee for support
- Services included: Website help, student behavior guidance, tool building, counseling triage
- Ida's response: "That is genius... I feel like you're light years ahead of me"
- Gary: "I'd be not very interested in exploring this without you"
ADHD and Neurodivergent Students
- Core problem: Teachers have 30 kids × 7 periods = 210 students, half with special needs from trauma
- Ida's ministry: Explained to ~100 families that ADHD is chemical imbalance, not character flaw
- Success story: Mom with 3 out-of-control boys finally agreed to medication - "all kids had straight A's, no more visits to principal"
- Key insight: "You can give them therapy all day, every day. And they're still going to have ADHD"
- Microschool advantage: Can take kids on nature walks, let them get wiggles out - impossible in public school
Dual Credit Pathways
- Texas opportunity: Alamo Community College Promise provides free first two years for Bexar County students
- Early college: Kids can earn associates degree by high school graduation
- TSI test: Only 8th grade level reading/writing/math, costs ~$15
- Homeschool advantage: Parents can graduate kids whenever ready - could start dual credit at 15-16
- Ida's question: Will private microschool students qualify for the Promise? "The answer could be yes"
STAAR Test Critique
- Ida's verdict: "STAAR was the devil. It ruined people's lives, ruined teachers' lives"
- Problem: Teachers forced to "teach to the test" or face discipline plans
- Result: Four years of high school focused on test prep, nothing applicable to college or life
- Analogy: "Like monkeys teaching them how to do a little dance and tip their hat to get their quarter"
- Gary: "Almost certainly didn't teach like a love of learning"
Neurodivergent Population & Divergent Movie
- Ida's insight: Neurodivergent students are often the "nerds" - math club, robotics, band - not athletes
- Movie reference: Divergent series - people who "see through things" that others miss
- Microschool fit: "Everybody's the same, everybody's important. You don't have to be an athlete to matter"
- At-risk program experience: 50 "bad kids" who were actually highly capable but found school "painful" because content wasn't relevant
Public School Environment Critique
- Ida's donut incident: Brought donuts to basketball team that won regionals - principal reprimanded her for "competing with cafeteria"
- Teacher creativity suppressed: Must follow purchased curriculum exactly or face discipline
- No recess: Some principals eliminated recess despite research showing kids need physical play
- Ida's observation: "It's a horrible environment, you know, the public school. For even educators."
Football Culture Commentary
- Observation: Sunday football may have replaced church for many families
- Ida: "Some Sundays, the pastors will talk about it like, 'hey, thanks for being here, you could be at home watching the game'"
- Her family: Neither she, Jesus, nor extended family follows football - "First of all, we were at church"
- Small talk aversion: "I don't want to sit around talking about... the football game or tailgating... makes me want to vomit"
Primer Age Restrictions
- Currently K-8 only for first year
- Ida's take: "A church that's starting this for the first time, ninth through twelfth is a whole other animal"
- Eventually may expand to 9-12
Key Quotes
- Ida on her unique value: "I was a 504 coordinator for 15 years. What's the 504 issue?"
- On neurodivergent students: "They need to find relevance in information... It needs to be important right now"
- On her calling: "I feel like that's who we would cater to, though, like the neurodivergent population. Which is great. That's who we need."
- Gary on partnership: "I'd be not very interested in exploring this without you"
- Ida on Gary: "Sometimes when we're talking, I pretend like I know what you're saying and I don't sometimes. And then later I'll be like, Carlos, Gary said this. What does that mean?"
- On microschools: "If they're hungry, okay, let's take time and eat a snack. Just because they're little doesn't mean they don't have the same needs as an adult human."
Action Items
- Gary to build the quiz/survey for $100 Facebook ad experiment
- Ida to test the quiz when ready
- Explore whether Alamo Community College Promise applies to private microschool students
- Develop "support package" pricing model for churches launching microschools
- Research Medicaid billing requirements for future (3-year practice threshold)